MEDIAWATCH: Thomas Coughlan and Wayne Mapp sing Father and Son to warn the Left to stay economically meaningless

ByMartyn Bradbury

Now that he is the Political Editor, Thomas Coughlan has written some deep dive explorations of the different political factions and I think he’s provided real insight in his latest investigation that highlights how radical the Greens have become since dumping James Shaw…

The Green Party’s most radical plan yet, and how Labour inspired it – Thomas Coughlan

…the technical issue here is that Grant Robertson and James Shaw locked the NZ Left into Ruth Richardson’s neoliberal debt straightjacket that ensures the State can never properly borrow to build our infrastructure.

Many on the Left have been hyper critical of this stupid fucking move that has ensured NZ never has the money to actually do the infrastructure building which leaves us in a. forever state of near achieving anything so the free market does it.

The problem is NZ is 2 giant sparsely populated islands, the free market dynamics of efficacy and competition only work in densely populated areas, NZ is barely populated and as such has always required the State to be the foundation stone.

That’s why we need a totally different view on State debt.

However, Coughlan’s conclusion that the Left shouldn’t dare be so radical…

Mamdani might chart the path to a brave new politics in the United States and NZ, but if Labour and Green strategists really are keen to throw off the mistakes of 2017, they shouldn’t forget people said the same thing about Jeremy Corbyn.

…is the exact same song that Former National Party Wayne Mapp makes here on TDB…

…that’s right folks, Wayne and Thomas are singing Cat Stevens, ‘Father and Son‘ to us.

It’s not time to make a changeJust relax, take it easyYou’re still young, that’s your faultThere’s so much you have to knowFind a girl, settle downIf you want you can marryLook at me, I am old but I’m happy

Couple of things.

1 – Jeremy Corbyn was taken down by Starmer using a bullshit anti-semitism smear.

2 – Isn’t it funny how according to Wayne Mapp, the Left must do as he says and never dare to dream by using Green and Māori MMP leverage! Yet Winston and David Seymour can fuck this country endlessly and that’s democracy, but the motherfucking millisecond the Left do it, it’s the end of Western Civilisation!

3 – The NZ Herald is the most right wing media in the country, why are we allowing them to tell us how we win this election?

The Left needs to dream big and bring policy that makes a material difference in the lives of Kiwis, and using the power of the State and the actual regulated capitalism is the way we do that.

We need to drop the alienating middle class woke Identity Politics and focus on universal left policy that actually solves the problems. Changing the neoliberal debt straightjacket is a serious means of providing real solutions.

The rich and right wing mouthpieces for the rich are terrified we will achieve that.

 

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43 Comments

  1. Meanwhile under this horrendous CoC Government NZ accelerates backwards…

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/is-this-the-most-expensive-butter-in-new-zealand-mainland-semi-soft-butter-500g-tub-more-than-18/7UA22UVMTJAXVFYLJNRLG5RIUY/

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/centrix-credit-indicator-reveals-hardship-on-steady-rise-more-unable-to-pay-bills/SWRX5KRLONDM3JXNYGOZ53HAQA/

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/marewa-crime-wave-business-owner-loses-30k-in-six-burglaries-in-two-months/5O5VXXSJ4RDYZMFVU6NLQFJ2P4/

  3. Green and brown will win the day .Mapp and co are clearly shitting bricks because they have no policy of their own so anything the Green and Brown team put up will be way better than what the current COC–TS HAVE TO OFFER .Two choices increased poverty ,unemployment ,failed businesses ,more crime ,less homes built ,lower wages for women OR a move to long term planing and job creation from the green energy revolution .Also moving the whole country forward not just the 1% doner rich pricks .
    We have the opportunity to drain the swamp and fill in the rabbit holes and create a decent society in NZ again and become a country where kiwis want to live instead of just bringing in people from other countries to replace the masses that have left in the last 18 months .

    1. Don’t think too big GWalk – promises yes but we have merely to turn the ship a fraction away from the maelstrom and we will have some safe time to think bigger ideas. I know that sort of reasoned achievable goal may not be appealing enough, but don’t over-promise. And don’t talk about draining swamps, that’s 20th century thinking. We now know that actual swamps serve a purpose, needed for our planet ecology.

      It’s time for us to join the clever animal kingdom in our thinking; whales are coming to humans to get fishing nets untangled from their bodies, Jane Goodall helped an albino guerilla or chimpanzee, ostracised by the group, to make its evening leaf and branch nest. We need to think differently about each other too, and how we do things change dramatically beyond what is broadcast and absorbed at the best schools and military academies.

  4. Hmm, I was merely pointing out that the major party of a coalition, whether it is a Left or a Right coalition, gets to determine the major policies of the coalition, especially in the economic sphere. That is hardly an arch conservative proposition.
    It is also what the voters expect, especially those who vote for the major party in the coalition.
    Martyn seems to be advocating that the major party has to simply accept what the minor parties in the coalition demand, that the major party has no independent agency.

    1. Just in case you missed this the other day: Labour needs to promote policies that will earn a significant party vote from the electorate as MMP in its current form is a failure as shown by the most ridiculous pretend three headed idiot coalition govt we have destroying the country at the moment. Unfortunately its back to no holds barred FPP politicking.

      So Wayne what that means is MMP has to be modified to stop the tails wagging the dog and then Labour needs to modify the system around the failed mantra that govt should not be in the business of business and then roll back in all the govt depts that were unceremoniously dumped or sold off. This country is too small a population to have the private sector running critical infrastructure. International free markets have nothing to do with reinstating for example a working state run MoW.

      1. Set that to music Phil M and you’ll have a hit, a very palpable hit.

        1. What do you suggest Grey, heavy metal, grunge, electro, rap, folk, rock, country, orchestral, classical, punk rock or maybe cos the way I’m feeling a bit of acid rock?

    2. Your mates in the COC have now stolen the 3 waters policy and changed it so their mates can cash in on it .My local council (waitomo) is first cab off the rank in the set up of Waikato water limited .Note it is now a company and we all know companies can be sold .Also we (the rate payers ) have to stump ,up to $16 million to join the company .Where does 7500 rate payers find that cash .We are already paying over $1000 per year for a trickle feed waste water system and another $1200 for a leaking drinking water supply that cant supply enough water as soon as the first rays of sun begin in the spring .
      You can keep on believing you defeated the last government on 3 waters but now you will see the real agenda behind the racist tirade of the COC before the election .THE PAKEHA HAVE STOLEN THE WATER FROM EVERY ONE IN NZ .Water will soon be owned off shore .Bring back the Maori .

    3. I get your point but you need to accept that the last 40 years have been a fail unless you are a member of the 1%.Even the (sorted ) PM is deluded if he thinks he is a member of the 1% $5 million is small change now days due to the rampant inflation over the last 40 years driven by trading ,wooden boxes at crazy prices, with one another and calling it an economy .
      The fact we have poverty and homeless families should tell you that we have failed as a nation .
      We need a complete reset to our thinking and bring all kiwis along for the ride not just the few .
      If we look at the rise of the Maori economy you would see that if we had been working with Maori for the last two hundred years ,how much better NZ as a nation would be .Instead we still spend billions in time and lost opportunity trying to eliminate them and take what little they have left .

      1. We would be a better nation if the MoW had not been destroyed and with councils following suit and dumping their works depts. Maori have proved to be fast learners and have an incredible capacity for working with technology and machinery. Listening to Winston on the news tonight with regards the ferries decrying that Irex had planned a Taj Mahal for Picton and a Sydney Opera House for Christchurch just shows the small mindedness that has kneecapped this nation in recent years.

        1. My thought too around the old idiot Peters .Those ferries will be 5 billion by the time they get here and sea levels will have risen so the existing loading platforms may well be under water .No future proofing .

  6. Perhaps Tom and Wayne should reflect on this…

    “The latest Stats NZ figures show in the past 12 months food prices have gone up 4.4 percent – the highest increase since December 2023.”

  7. Perhaps Tom and Wayne should reflect on this…

    “The latest Stats NZ figures show in the past 12 months food prices have gone up 4.4 percent – the highest increase since December 2023.”

  9. Spot on Martyn and Gordon. How these two hypocrites cannot see that this is the behaviour of the current CoC-up is breath-taking and confirms they don’t even share half a brain. This CoC is only for the smug “sorted”, and so riddled with corruption, bribery and lots and lots of lies. Let’s not get onto Seymour or Willis, both horribly lacking in moral fibre and any form of empathy and the extreme weakness of Luxon! And on a similar vein, how about the latest in corruption – the hugely opposed helipad for rich listers – how the hell did this get approved? Yeah it’s all out there every day.

  11. Hipkins hasn’t ever proved that he’s the man for the job though. The leadership problem needs to be taken care of first.
    Without Parker there, will Barbara Edmonds be able to lay the groundwork adequately?
    We need Willy.
    Mr. Jackson’s mana and profile have been boosted nicely in the last year. He’s a bit theatrical but he can behave when necessary. He annoys Seymour who is rabid in his envy of the straight talking WJ.
    Hipkins should stand aside and not lose any more face or votes.

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