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  1. It’s okay for people to say whatever they want but we can’t allow anyone who says things like”people like you” anywhere near the levers of power.

  2. More taxpayer funded resources going to waste on terrible, poetry.

    I think it’s fine she wrote it, but feel it’s tone deaf to promote it on stuff. How many more hand outs do NZ woke media need as their readership plummets?

    If had been a different race or gender then the shit would hit the fan and it would be banned. Thus we now have a double standard of woke, that people are not happy about in NZ.

    Lets change the race and gender and see if it’s still ok? Is it now a hate crime? Thus we have a big problem that seems to elude the NZ government and censors by having a dual system of race/gender/ hate speech.

    or black men like you

    who might be thieves

    or rapists

    or kidnappers

    or murderers

    yeah, or any of your descendants

    or any of your incarnations

    cos, you know

    ay, poof?

    We’re gonna F… YOU UP.

    seems like there are many different versions of tolerance in woke world. Some violence and racial hate are ok, but others are hate speech. Maybe why people are dividing not unified under the woke umbrella and knowledge and tolerance is lost.

    Anyway going to go and groom my kids to be victims and ram raid and hate others on race and gender and hate debate too. Cos I can. Sarcasm.

  3. Surely this poem is free speech Seymour?

    Or is only free speech when YOU say it is?

  4. Anyone who isn’t irredeemably biased would have to admit that, if the situation were inverted and a White man wrote a poem that was hostile towards brown women, we’d never hear the end of it and the poet would have their life ruined. It’s pretty redundant to point out the inconsistency, but there you have it.

    1. Agree with Martyn’s argument that this is Art but you are 100% correct Fidel. This is typical double standard, the media council wont stand up for anyone with a right wing view (oops I meant centrist these days) but suddenly starts speaking free speech when it suits them. They are right of course but dont walk the talk.

  5. “as a defender of Free Speech I absolutely stand by her right to be a mediocre poet!”
    Absolutely. But not at taxpayers expense, surely?

    1. It’s not the free speech issue, it’s the clear double-standard involved: brown people can obviously openly express violent sentiments against White people (we deserve it, apparently), yet White people could never be allowed to reciprocate because of “muh racism.” We should be all free to use our speech to abuse others (short of open incitement), but it cannot go only one way.

    2. It’s ( admittedly atrocious) “art”. I am sure there would be other funded works that you might like but others would be outraged at taxpayer money being spent on.

      Fidel probably has a point about reversing the roles but I guess the problem with that is a bunch of Polynesians didn’t paddle up the Thames and help themselves.

      1. They probably would have if they were sufficiently technically advanced. I don’t think it was a superior sense of morality that prevented Polynesians from colonising Europe, it was simply that they didn’t have the capability.

        1. Well I guess we will never know but it’s a bit of a weird argument to say “ but they would have if they could have”. They didn’t.

  6. Creative New Zealand? Oh dear. This is the level which these people function at themselves. They almost certainly thought that this was a good poem.

    We have to be honest here and admit that a half-decent New Zealand lady poet like Fleur Adcock, or Lauris Edmond…or gentle Eileen Colonialist Duggan… would be totally beyond the comprehension of Creative New Zealand.

    These are the ignorami who believe that William Shakespeare buggered up the colonisation of New Zealand after having incited it in the first place. That’s who they are, shuffling along Lambton Quay dressed like paid funeral mourners whose other specialty is advertising birds’ nest soup the way that Dr Elizabeth Canary does, and invariably, invariably, with the backs of their shoes dirty- ours not to wonder why.

    The fact that the Media Council still exists is a surprise though. What on earth have they been doing?
    Media being the plural of medium, one wonders if they make their decisions in sandalwood scented rooms with the lights off, holding hands under a table with a fringed cloth, and hoping like hell that the voice of Uncle Frank doesn’t start speaking from the past, and that the dead stay well and truly dead.

    Media Council ? Oh God. Predictable bunch of egotistical irritants more concerned with impressing each other and being culturally correct and getting onto as many committees and reviews as they possibly can,than wasting time on aesthetics, let alone truth or beauty. The easy money people. Nice work if you can get it. Ever been at a dinner party of journalists ? They’re so busy showing off that you could feed them pizza with bird droppings on and they wouldn’t notice.

    Bearing in mind that it is easier to get into heaven than be published in “ Landfall”, expect to spend eternity in bliss, never having to see or hear from these social vandals again. Try not to think about child povidy, or cold lonely old people, or dislocated adolescents, or evil drug pushers, or cops watching women getting beaten, or mums desperate about kids home alone, or whether our decent hard working grandparents deserve to be constantly vilified at the expense of we, the idiot tax payers, and just plant spuds in buckets and secrete the books which they’d burn if we let them near them.

  7. If Stuff published this person’s writing just doing their usual anti-white mischief making, they were being pretty juvenile. If their intention was to incite hatred then they need to take a hard look at themselves.

    There are people who believe what they read in newspapers and sometimes act on it. Stuff certainly wallow in bashing pioneering New Zealand with an absence of both critical thinking and historical knowledge, but MSM are generally like that now, and the politicians are no better. Captain Cook, another great man of history being soiled by a bunch of nobodies, is sickening, but Creative New Zealand seem to be systemic Neanderthals now and Sepuloni ,Minister of Culture, should explain why.

  8. Unfortunately for Tusiata a good number of those SUVs are driving to the nearest church as some of the colonisers were excellent con artists.

  9. Decades ago I went to Kings Cross in Sydney and saw Les Girls. Very glamorous – outdid most women. Now everyone seems to want to be in the act. But what about all the ordinary people around trying to live their lives in trying times, are they to be pushed off centre stage? Answer – yes unless they show their sensitive sides by writing poetry.
    which definitely is not easy so would expand minds which at present are too narrow.

    Carlotta seems to have been an enduring star.
    https://sydneytransgender.com/talent-profile-carlotta.html
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugclT0fSQEE
    https://worldqueerstory.org/tag/he-did-it-her-way-the-legend-of-les-girls/

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