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  1. Martin Devlin has presented as a rather passive aggressive presence for a long time, and maybe the pain and ridicule he likes to inflict on others somehow mirrored whatever pain it is that he feels about something in his own being and life.

    Suicide never goes away for those left behind, as I know well from one of my closest male friends in the 80s. I always wonder what I could have done to intervene usefully. So while Mr Devlin seems a supercilious arsehole to some, and a loved family member to others, he still deserves support and assistance to try and recover his life. Never mind Stuff, the shock jock model has been with us for way too long in media circles.

    1. It sure is and it’s ever increasing spiral downwards can be traced back to the invention of the internet.

      1. Sam and James, Yes, but universal television descending to trash levels hasn’t helped either.

        Stuff are an ethical disgrace, and they don’t even know it.

      2. “can be traced back to the invention of the internet.” Having no concept of history further back than the mid ninties is not a basis for making sweeping statements, that are arguable at best… So Margaret Thatcher never existed, or had anything to do with what’s happening now? Or her disciples in the republican party under Ronald Reagan, or Roger Douglas in the mid eighties? Give me a break… The internet is just a more efficient transfer mechanism, that has accelerated to process of isolating the members of the proletariat from each other, and therefore removing the biggest obstacle to the reclaiming of total control of our lives… Or are you going to argue that the internet was up and running in the 1970’s? Word to the wise? Do the research before making an ass of yourself by displaying a truncated historical perspective that discredits everything said thereafter..

        1. Nah well if your just relying on the internet for answers then you will get what’s called group think because everyone is going to the same articles for answers and atleast half of the internet is pure bullshit. I mean everyone always blames everything else for climate change except themselves. Fuck.

        2. Stefan, Don’t be so mean and horrible and intolerant of persons who think differently from you, you ass.

          1. Tactical mistake telling someone they’re this or that when they have not been scared with the same struggles as you went through.

            Those that focus on installing empathy in others never make it correctly.

            Those that focus on installing empathy in themselves make it.

            Focus on installing empathy in yourself and the human rights will flow.

          2. Wow! Sometimes, Sam, you blow it out of the water.
            Right on the mark, I reckon.

            (Though I’d probably go for ‘grow’ or ‘cultivate’ rather than ‘install’, but the end result’s the same.)

        3. Hi Stefan, appreciate the feedback thank you but I think you are mistaking my ‘off the cuff’ comment with an attempt to encapsulate everything that has ever happened since Jesus turned out for the Nazareth 1st XV.
          Not everyone has all the time in the world to carefully formulate such an ‘insightful and well researched’ reply . .

          1. I couldn’t have guessed that my adopted city of Brisbane Australia would get a plus 10 economic bonus on top of its recession proffed GDP status thanks to being granted the 2032 Olympics. That’s just my luck (luck had nothing to do with it. Always follow the money).

      3. The Internet just moves to fast for all the Muppets at the top. Works well for me.

  2. Again, we need a Ministry for Mental/ Emotional Health. Without a Minister in charge, no-one really has to take responsibility.

    And, I think Louisa Wall already put her hand up to take on that role, in effect. She was a founding member of the cross-party Mental Health and Addiction Wellbeing Group, and despite having been in parliament for more than a dozen years, she has yet to be allocated a Ministry.

    The racing industry has its own Ministry. Mental/ emotional health does not.

    1. I don’t think someone who was reported as calling other women “fucking terfs” during the Pride dispute would be a good person to be Minister of mental emotional health somehow

        1. Good question Kheala. I am not sure I can make suggestions on this.

          The biggest problem for mental health is the lack of workforce who are well trained to deliver evidence based inteventions in a timely fashion. So anyone who is competent and committed to that, who doesn’t have a political agenda

          1. The Minister has to be one of the MPs who are there. (I kind of liked that Louisa is there but is not in lock-stock with Party obeisance. She acts first from herself, as a responsive human being.)

      1. Anker – Agreed. And a woman representing vey poor and disadvantaged persons saying that the most important issue for her was same sex persons being able to marry each other, may prioritise within rather narrow perimeters.

        1. People can do anything they want with human rights as long as they claim it for themselves.

        2. It was important to her because she really wanted to marry her life partner and was not allowed to do so?

          Didn’t Shakespeare write plays about that stuff ? (which have probably all been ditched from the national Library as not being ‘Kiwi’ enough or some other obscure reason)

          1. Another right-wing media beat-up. Natz raised it in Parliament and their amateur right-wing media took it up and ran with it – boring, still no traction. The Natz dirty tricks brigade need to get into action – Jerry’s podcast response might be a good start.

    2. I dunno Louisa Wall, but def the need is mighty for a ministery of MH. Would need to be someone with maturity, life experience, even better someone who has lived and overcome some real shit

      1. Yes!! Not another bloody pen-pushing, yes-sir/ no ma’am, “just following orders – So you follow mine”, pass-the-buck bureaucratter!!

  3. How low can you go..,.The old saying lower than a snakes arsehole should now be changed to lower than a stuff reporter!

    1. Mark you well- meaning fellow, read my comment on yesterday’s Open Mic to see how low Stuff can go, and as long as they can get away with being sewer rats, they could be tunnelling all the way through to China, just as my little bro tried to – but only succeeded in wrecking the potato pit.

      PS Snakes can make quite classy handbags… prestige shoes…money spinners for villagers… let’s not be too hasty in trashing snakes…

  4. I’m at the opposite end of the political spectrum from you but I appreciate your viewpoint and particularly agree with you on this.

  5. Martyn, thank you for calling fair go for mental health needs and individuals. Some regardless of their politics and backgrounds.
    Seems to me that true Leftists dont need faux Leftist cancel culture and wokery, we care about everyones needs.
    Mental health, good education, health, housing, employment, real issues for real people.
    Again thanks, look after your own sanity too.

  6. I somehow missed that last bit, about the NZME lawyer gagging Andi.
    (Must have read thru too fast.)

    That is seriously disturbing.
    That bit scares me.

  7. Yep another victim of the corporate HR functionaries.
    I refer to them as the new secret police!
    Been there myself, three years of managerial bullying! Citalopram long term is dangerous!
    Origins of this go back to Edwsrd Bernays and his books on Public Relations. Wonderful work he did for Big Tobacco and the torches of freedom!

  8. The concerted effort of a minority at present, in many parts of the Western world, appears to be on assassinating the characters of members of the majority. Is it Martin Devlin’s fault that he is a heterosexual Caucasian male from a privileged home country? Somehow I think not.

    I do agree with some on here that he has portrayed a passive aggressive presence in the past. Is that his fault? Or was that the status quo at that period of time?

    Still, any possible personality issues aside, this is a suicide attempt were discussing, and a close one at that. It is rather disturbing, morbid and sombre. I cannot comprehend why or how it got to that point for this e man. It is beyond belief as this is a respectable man in his prime with a family. I feel that increased sensitivity ought to be shown towards those who are public figures. I remember shortly after the 2017 general election, there was an online illustration depicting new mother Jacinda Ardern lying on a hospital bed with the physical appearance of a horse. Now this is not on, not humorous, and had she had postnatal depression and a lack of support at home and at work, I hate to think what the consequences may have been.

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