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  1. Well put Martyn. Carmel was a good campaigner against Paula Bennett out West and I have met her personally and it was quite apparent she barely knows what a class analysis is unfortunately.

    I think she over compensates in favour of the MSD tops partly because of her mother’s benefit fraud conviction, but hey that is just my opinion.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/270065/sepuloni's-mother-sentenced-for-benefit-fraud

    Implement WEAG now! It is an insult to working class NZers, and the likes of Robert Reid and Susan St.John and other experts in the field not to do so.

    1. When I knew her early in her political career she didn’t even know Douglas and Prebble had been Labour party ministers. At least she doesn’t bring any ideological baggage to her role. She is an adept surfer. Started on the Little wave caught the Adern monster and now is coasting to shore with Chippie.

  2. I have met Greg Presland. And I think he is a great guy. Greg Presland is not a party hack or a I-wanna-be-an-MP careerist. Modest an unassuming and decent is Greg Presland. He really does care for people, and I count him on the left and as an ally.

    In his many written contributions to The Standard, most of which I have enjoyed reading. Now and then in in his writing Greg Presland has described himself as “Tribal Labour”.

    Or to put it in other words ‘My party right or wrong’. This sectarian world outlook means that sometimes Greg has to defend the indefensible.

    In his defence Labour, and the Left of Labour generally, have suffered a blow. We are all hurting. An unprecedented and well funded orchestrated hate campaign coming from the far right of the political spectrum has brought down one of the best and most able New Zealand Prime Ministers in my lifetime, and I remember Norman Kirk.

    Sensing enemies all around Greg Presland feels the need to circle the wagons. ‘My Party Right or Wrong’ is his fallback defensive position.
    Who knows, maybe Greg Presland’s support for Carmel Sepuloni during this period of crisis could end up being temporary and conditional on her righting her policy mistakes of the past.
    Let’s hope so.

    1. “My Party Right or Wrong”
      If someone cannot even attempt to call balls and strikes without fear or favour then everything they say should be viewed with skepticism.

    2. I know Greg from West Auckland and agree with you Pat. Just don’t expect revolutionary politics from him. A shame because he is good in the local community but rolls with the LP which keeps the members at arms length in favour of “the Parliamentary wing”.

    3. Interesting @Pat.
      I’ve probably been confusing Greg Presland with Lynn Prentice (the latter the world’s best ITC professional, and martyr).
      I haven’t visited TS in what is probably now 2-3 years after being cancelled.
      (I was cancelled for quoting something Parekura Horomia had said to me directly on a Metroliner flight from Gizzie to Wellington. Obviously utterly too unPC for whoever the TS mod was. The comment was a bit like a David Lange moratorium on whaling comment).
      Yep, I’ve definitely been confusing the two me thinks. (shoot me, I’m getting old)

    4. Kia ora Pat.

      Thanks for your comment. I am from a long line of staunch working class trade unionists and despite my current middle class status intend to continue with their struggle.

      Bomber I hear you. I have a long term relationship with Carmel which means that I support her. My history with Chippie makes me less inclined to support him so it is a weird place to be in where I respond to you supporting Chippie and attacking Carmel.

      Will think about your challenge and respond.

      Solidarity …

  3. Without even mentioning the Families package, the idea that little has been done since 2017 is misleading.

    Since 2017 unemployment has gone from 4.7 to 3.3% unemployed

    The MW increased from $15.75 in 2017 to $21.20 an hour in 2022. The extent of increase (34%) is greater than that for increases in power and rent and power over the same period.

    Benefits went up 33% – $237 to $315 for the Job Seeker Benefit also greater than the increases in power, rent and power in the same period

    Main benefits are now linked to average wage growth for the first time in New Zealand’s history.

    A significant increase in the amount that beneficiaries could earn before abatement applied was increased – from $90 to $160 for singles and $115 to $160 for those with children.

    And remember the Winter Power Income Supplement is extra.

    There was the Accommodation Supplement increases in 2018, the first since 2005 (a further increase is currently under review).

    https://www.msd.govt.nz/documents/about-msd-and-our-work/publications-resources/evaluation/family-packages/2021/2021-findings-on-accommodation-supplement.pdf

    free school lunches to more than 220,000 students

    funded the removal of school donations to ease financial pressure on parents

    permanently halved the price of public transport for Community Service Cardholders\

    The linked report below shows

    “Government support has lifted incomes for Beneficiaries by 40 percent over and above inflation since 2018. The report takes into account inflation data from up to March 2022 and reports a 43 percent rise in After Housing Cost incomes. When adjusted for recent changes to inflation the increase in total incomes in real terms is 40 percent. This figure does not take into account the Winter Energy Payment which is currently being received by 1.1m New Zealanders.”

    https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/government-support-lifts-income-beneficiaries

  4. Presland has colonial ships in mind, and views Carmel’s torso as the figurehead on the Labour ship of state. I’m a bit nostalgic for some of the past, but can’t contemplate going back that far.

  5. Just wait u8ntil parliament starts and see Luxon blabbering away and ask how he is going to deal with the economy. Jacinda has left the economy with
    – the lowest inflation in the world,
    – record low unemployment,
    – low level of debt
    – record terms of trade
    – building/construction boom
    – record social housing (Natz haven’t added to Aotearoa stock in 25 years)
    – Ram raids and random shootings addressed
    – $5.8bn into health in 5 years, Natz $780m in 3 years
    – NATZ Sinking lid on police numbers at same time as key invited 501s into Aotearoa
    – increased wages – Don Brash’s plea to Key to match Australia.
    – improved child poverty numbers
    – fewer homeless on streets – keys legacy fill streets with homeless
    – saved 30,000 Aotearoans from covid death
    – told Bishop that dedicated MIQ facilities not required
    – the homeless man Woodhouse was proved a liar
    – those returning kiwis bought in omicron that has killed 3000 Aotearoans

    Thank you Jacinda a world class leader who looked after her citizens while the right made a lot of foolish options that would have killed 30,000 Aotearoans. Enjoy your retirement while the grumpy old tory men and right wing Proud Boys, MAGA & Qnon lunatics will look for someone else to hate.

    Wait until Luxon has to start answer questions i Parliament instead of the tory press giving him a free ride. Did you see the Tory AM show on Monday where dumbo Ryan and Mellisa gave luxon free Natz party political broadcast while they spent 20 minutes trying to catch chippy out.

    Tory times herald at it again with tory aubrey young making things up. Losers like Prebble, Roughan, Trevett and Joyce should be put to pasture. AS I keep saying – how about tory herald and tory talk ZB getting a couple of Raving lefties to balance up their programs. Simon Wilson is the most educated and informed jounalist and explains every thing. his article on Monday was the best ive read.

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