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  1. I don’t know anyone else but Effiso Collins and Matt McCarten that posses the minimum required by ingredients and even then at the very least should be aiming for a 1 or even a 2 Infront of there polling. A 3 then hopefully they’d have nurtured at least one as to continue on in the leadership role.

    I mean there’s always a leader, deputy and and apprentice. When the leader steps down the choice is always obvious because our of the deputy and apprentice one is always older while the other is younger.

    This process is important because if you don’t you just wast all campaigning and polling. What a wast if it just dies with one leader.

    1. Matt McCarten – you are kidding, a man looking for a home. Full of talk.

      Efeso yes yes yes. Ridiculous that they put Jenny Salesa who did not perform as a minister in to the fold of Labour rather than Efeso, but then could they ‘control’ efeso.

  2. A new party is badly needed, not one that scares the horses but a conservative socialist left of centre would do me.

    “Inert”. That is the best adjective ever for the Arden 2017-2023 government, ever.

    And yep, the Greens have disappeared through the looking glass and are indulging with whatever the gender non specific caterpillar is smoking from they hookah pipe.

    1. ” “Inert”. That is the best adjective ever for the Arden 2017-2023 government, ever.”
      Ain’t THAT the truth!

  3. I think voters would prefer ‘nice’ labour to

    David Parker who is a neoliberal.

    Andrew Little used to have a lot more spine before he was bought to court repeatedly in the Hagaman debacle. Now he is trained not to speak out against corruption due to our legal systems love of hiding it.

    How many cases has the criminal cases review committee overturned or completed, have they asked for more budget while no justice it seems yet.

    21 million on consultants for 3 waters which nobody seems to want as another lawyer of bureaucracy doesn’t seem to solve labours problems with housing and tertiary and health care.

    3rd taskforce on health waiting lists – do government really need another task force give them more reports or could they spend the time and money on more doctors and nurses in the hospitals and retaining qualified people – instead of flooding hospitals with more non medical or non qualified health workers in the system to ‘make up the numbers’.

    1. Yes a neo liberal still – aren’t they all.

      I think Parker has done more than any minister. Limiting super phosphate is a huge step frankly.

      Little has got the poisoned chalice which is health which has been underfunded by $30 billion over 30 years according to Phil Bagshaw who is himself the real deal and one of the starters of the CHCH charity hospital.

      I would love to know who in parliament does not have health insurance. Most of them don’t have a stake in public health services.

  4. Yes John. I’ve been reading more about the New Right, that’s what we need here – less identitist, globalist, corporatist, socialist bull shit would be good.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets
    “This New Right is heavily populated by people with graduate degrees, so there’s a lot of debate about who is in it and whether or not it even exists. At one end are the NatCons, post-liberals, and traditionalist figures like Benedict Option author Rod Dreher, who envision a conservatism reinvigorated by an embrace of localist values, religious identity, and an active role for the state in promoting everything from marriage to environmental conservation. But there’s also a highly online set of Substack writers, podcasters, and anonymous Twitter posters—“our true intellectual elite,” as one podcaster describes them. This group encompasses everyone from rich crypto bros and tech executives to back-to-the-landers to disaffected members of the American intellectual class, like Up in the Air author Walter Kirn, whose fulminations against groupthink and techno-authoritarianism have made him an unlikely champion to the dissident right and heterodox fringe. But they share a the basic worldview: that individualist liberal ideology, increasingly bureaucratic governments, and big tech are all combining into a world that is at once tyrannical, chaotic, and devoid of the systems of value and morality that give human life richness and meaning—as Blake Masters recently put it, a “dystopian hell-world.”

  5. WHERE IS THE PHARMAC final report ?
    Apparently the only ones allowed to see it are crown stakeholders !!!
    The 112,000 Pharmac review Petition signers along with the other 100,000 petition signers on 10 other petitions in 2019/2020 and review submitter’s have not been allowed to see it and Andrew little is refusing to release it publicly.
    Andrew little and crown stakeholders have had it for 3 months so why hasn’t it been released.

    Lets remember Labour did not want a Pharmac review and they blatantly refused to have the funding model as part of the review.
    Obviously Labour and Andrew Little don’t like what it says.
    They sure as hell did not like the preliminary report.

  6. Really John, you are right about Sepuloni being a waste of space but Chris Hipkins and Grant Robertson have been solid performers as has Michael Wood. Unlike you I prefer to be a party member and change things from within. Anthony Albanese has proposed that the state takes on 40% of a first home buyer’s liabilities and NZ should look at that. After all we did have a State Advances Corporation once.

    1. Sepuloni is 10 times better than that nasty looking Upston who couldnt give a shit about the poor, Maori, children. Robertson 20 times better than the other nasty looking Willis. Hipkins runs rings around Bishop. Little trumps Dr ICU Reti. Poto beats Mitchell hands up – hes a bumbling fool who gets easily bamboozled which is not good when a protest is happening.

  7. I recall some of the policies regarding taxation that were introduced under the Clark Governments as being dangerously near the far left. Her three terms in power were between 1999 and 2008. Benefits were increased which helped the poor immeasurably, resulting in improvements in numeracy and literacy amongst children from low socioeconomic households. The Working For Families package was introduced, so families on low to median incomes were better off. The implementation of the New Zealand Superannuation Fund, which was also known as the Cullen Fund, along with initiatives which were pioneered by NZ First Leader Winston Peters, made finances considerably easier on retirees.

  8. If Jacinda wins the rich win, if Luxon wins the rich win. Why don’t they merge?

    1. They could quite easily with a Commerce Commission rubber stamp.
      See you back here in a few years to see who gets custody of the kids and other property

  9. Sepuloni is 10 times better than that nasty looking Upston who couldnt give a shit about the poor, Maori, children. Robertson 20 times better than the other nasty looking Willis. Hipkins runs rings around Bishop. Little trumps Dr ICU Reti. Poto beats Mitchell hands up – hes a bumbling fool who gets easily bamboozled which is not good when a protest is happening.

  10. Don McLean has written some good words in his time.
    His ‘Jump’ seems to fit our Now,.

    JUMP Album: Prime Time
    Well you better jump, jump, jump,
    If you wanna’ live at all.
    Yes you better jump, jump, jump,
    Even though you’re bound to fall
    Cause’ they’re gonna’ make you sorry gonna’ make you cry
    If you don’t jump, jump, jump, into the seat by and by.

    Well, you jump for joy and happiness,
    You jump when things go right.
    You jump when you’re asleep
    And you hear a strange voice in the night.
    Sometimes we get to use to things, they don’t mean what they did.
    I know that what make my floor, make another fellows lid.
    (Chorus)
    Well, I’m always on the lookout,
    For somethin’ fresh and new.
    Like bein’ on a cookout with a crazy Kangaroo.
    Just when I think I’ve found a place where I’m sure I wanna’ stop.
    My body won’t quit cookin’ and my mind begins to hop.
    (Chorus)
    Well, I’m thinkin’ about a thousand things,
    I’m a losin’ lots of sleep.
    I’m glidin’ on my inner wings, I’m gettin’ set to leap.
    I’m ridin’ on my pony, I’m lettin’ out my rope.
    I’m lookin’ for an idea like a big bar of soap.
    (Chorus)
    Well, one man was cold and hungry,
    One man was rich and well.
    One man stood at the window, as the crowd began to yell.
    While the poor man prayed to Jesus and the rich man made a deal.
    One man was standing naked yellin’ do what you feel.

  11. “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.”
    ― Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

    Oh that were so in NZ! The reality is NZ is a venal money trench for the elite and petit bourgeoisie, a neo liberal state in legislation and reality, so no revolution just yet. But change is a coming…one way or another.
    The Convoys and Groundswells had their go at being that change, but have blown their bags as far as can be seen, they had their chance.

    A new political movement (not just Parliamentary Party) is certainly needed to challenge and retire neo liberalism. But given all the requirements to register new parties and do community organising and activism, that should probably be kicked out to the 2026 General Election. There are ultimately few ‘organisational solutions to political problems.’

    But for 2023 certainly the Greens and Te Pāti Māori should be the target for pressure to support working class friendly policy in case they are able to form a Government with Labour. A combination of tactics–turn Green and Māori left as possible, and strategy–keep the dirty filthy natzos out, as the ground is prepared for a generational break through in 2026.

    Countryboy is right that all the main parties have signed up to the neo liberal state, so a prime poltical job is to split off the most useful groups. Or we could always just talk shit on blogs…

  12. Thinking John of each geographical area gathering together people who fit a written set of beliefs etc. Get together, form a Trust, apprentice themselves to the Council, accountants, business interests with practical ideas, plan an informed, democratic group but everyone has had to study some government political set of papers. Keep under scrutiny of all to make sure no treason or white-anting. The people are from all groups and interests, all informed, those representing the poor understand them, people not vicious but demand firm decisions not just self indulgent..,. blah blah.

    This is in train, still thinking about it. But democracy has not worked with everyone having the option of an equal say yet with no knowledge or experience very deep outside their specialty. Business people only know about starting s business. People who don’t want to be bothered
    don’t join but come along to meetings and put their concerns forward and can be on working committees looking at the problem etc. People involved. We have practised equality along class lines, voters think that they are ‘the bosses’ of politicians, expect everything, but only the slick and clever workers get what they want. Crazy.

  13. As the government has contracted out its duties and concerns to quasi agencies and business it is opportune for citizens to form themselves into the sort of professionals they would like to be carrying out this work themselves. It would be particularly suitable for youthful and capable retired men and women. A way of putting something back into the country that has nurtured them in some ways since being born and of which we always had high expectations and pride. It is time for the reality of the old saying – ‘Now is the time for all good men, and women, to come to the aid of the party’.

  14. National: “We’re not Labour.”
    Labour: “We’re not National.”

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