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  1. Of course we should NOT join AUKUS, unless we wish to commit suicide as a free, independent nation. “ARMED NEUTRALITY” (pace Te Paati Maorii) is the only way to go! As fundamentally a trading nation, our goods will universally continue to be needed/wanted and thus all war parties will respect us as a NEUTRAL country! Aotearoa/New Zealand — the SWITZERLAND OF THE SOUTH!!!

  2. Well, they have their views. However, I understand it is highly likely that New Zealand will join Phase 2 of AUKUS. This is mostly about Cyber, Communications, Networking, IT and specific areas of High Technology with military applications.

    It lines up with being a Five Eyes nation. Also with the visits by the PM to Australia and the upcoming visits to NATO and then to PNG to see President Biden.

    I would also note that I doubt we can get full utility from the P8’s unless we are part of AUCKUS Phase 2.

    Now I know the Hard Left (Greens, TPM, the usual Left commentators) will scream about this. But then they always do. So that is hardly a revelation. They won’t get their way unless the Greens and TPM absolutely dominate a left government, and PM Hipkins is little more than their mouthpiece. I don’t see that happening, certainly not at the next election.

    1. I thought all that was what we get for being part of 5 eyes, now we’re expected to join up with AUKUS as well?
      Talk about militarising the Pacific!!
      Not in our interests to be dragged into a stupid war with China

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