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  1. Thank you Social Credit!
    A fairly recent decision on my part, that I needed to try and understand the mechanics of CO2 causing catastrophic overheating of the planet, which I had until then accepted along with all the people I associate with, has led me to the view that it is wrong. In discussion with an intellectual friend committed to the belief, he asked me if I thought it was a hoax. I didn’t ; I thought that most likely the scientists engaged by the IPCC to advise on the question were thus placed in the invidious position that they became responsible for warning the world if it was facing a catastrophe or not. If we are , and they do not warn of it , they will be responsible for failing to warn the world of it’s impending self destruction . But they know that they do not have the comprehensive understanding of all the interacting factors to be able to answer the question and have understandably erred on the side of caution and issued the warning in case it happens. Otherwise it was not obvious who would gain from a false alarm.
    But if this wholesale selloff of New Zealand’s farmland to overseas mega rich companies for way above what a farmer can pay, and then basically providing the money to this overseas companies to buy and develop into forrest, : And this is an example of the kind of approach governments generally are going to take to “combatting climate change” then it is going to result in a new wave of transfer of real wealth from states and small businesses to the global wealthy.
    All of a sudden I can see a reason for climate change being a hoax. The super wealthy are going to gather up what they don’t already hold out of government’s doing this sort of thing to try to tackle a non existent problem within the framework of the neoliberal settlement.
    D J S

  2. I dont think climate change is a hoax by any means and I dont wish to get into that here .

    but I applaud social Credit on its very correct thinking and courage .

    1. Yes Fair enough Working Man, I don’t want to denigrate or compromise SC’s position here. In the present general acceptance of the climate change narrative their position is right. If it turns out to be a mistake none of what is argued here will have done any harm.
      D J S

      1. I don’t think it is the fact of CO2 in the atmosphere itself that is the problem, but rather it’s rapid increase over the last couple of hundred years. Without the ‘greenhouse effect’ I suspect none of us would be here since the climate would then be too cold to support life.

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