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  1. After so many years of National domination of “the narrative” it is tricksy for an old school lefty to believe these figures. Will hands start to shake when that big black marker pen is grasped in the little cardboard booth, or mail in vote form…or will previously aspirational and conservative people be able to bring themselves to party vote Labour?

    Jacinda’s ace might be to–after a suitable number of middle class horror stories about WINZ/MSD have emerged, and shit they are popping up already–to disestablish WINZ/MSD, bring in a world leading Basic Income via IRD, and establish a new Social Security Agency for urgent needs, child poverty, disabled etc.

    There is a whole “Covid Capitalism” strategy being revealed, where many employers have played the Govt; Fletchers, Air New Zealand and even Carter Holt Harvey and many more are involved. The Govt. did the right thing with its ‘high trust’ model of wage subsidies and loans, otherwise the petit bourgeois sector would likely not have bought into Level 4 Lockdown.

    Lets hope these polls can become an election win with National sidelined. After 2023 the generational shift should take care of the rest!

  2. A day is a long time in politics Martyn.
    NZF always comes back on election day, and history shows us that NZF poll results sink before election day, so expect their return.

    Green Party have made a very serious mistake, pushing out the older ‘grass roots’ Green members for ‘educated urban elite young idealists’ – who turn the public off.

    Interesting times.

  3. One thing that has come out of ALL THIS i.e COVID-19 is I am sure as Hell so bloody glad we have a Labour/NZ First/Greens Coalition government than an opportunistic, self-serving, self-obsessed with image and Vanity government like the deceased National,ACT, United Future etc.etc.etc. style of government.
    In their current evolution and status National will not achieve much of a vote at the next election. But who knows what 24 hours in a political day can achieve.
    After today the next leader and deputy leader of National will be Muller and Amy Adams. The Two B’s(as we may as well call Bridges and Bennett)may well turn out to be Have Beens after 1.00pm today.

  4. Could the Greens or NZFirst pick up a ‘first past the post’ electoral win as the Natz votes crumbles and thus making the less than 5% threshold irrelevant.
    Also might ACT loose in Epsom as the crooked Goldsmith, scared for his political career, if he’s not put high enough up the list…..to what number given the speed of the Natz vote crumbling? … mean that he doesn’t hold his nose and be the usual crooked politician and step aside for the irrelevant hologram.
    Just a thought.
    And if Labour are strong enough to be in Govt without other parties, might Jacinda invite the other parties to join in cabinet so she has a bigger pool of talent?

    1. She will definately need some help because apart from her and Grant there is little talent in the Labour cabinet. Today I heard Twyford on radio .What a train wreck and the same could be said about Kelvin Davies he can hatdly string 2 words together yet is supposed to be highly educated. But who would she bring in there are no Greens worth having and only 2 NZF worthwhile.

  5. High poll result for Labour is an early gut reaction to leadership in a crisis no more no less.
    It’s a well known psychological phenomenon – look at Scott Morrison’s polling, unless extremely badly handled as per Trump.
    It’s also the reason the govt did the document dump now, in the honey moon phase of the crisis, if certain facts came to light later (eg official advice to shut the border earlier as was the case) when we are feeling the effects of hard economic recession, it would have been far more damaging.
    Greens are definitely circling the drain. Deserved.
    ACT is being rewarded as the only party which cares about civil liberties and holding government to account.
    3 MPs at current polling.
    NZ First dunno at the moment. Winston is a flat out liar, most know it but some fall for him every election.
    Nats largely irrelevant and at the mercy of events. Parachute in a big name leader – Hosking? for airtime/attempted cut through?

    1. I believe the Jamie Lee Ross tapes play a part in the dislike of Bridges.If as you say Winston is a flat out liar, what does that make Bridges?
      I’d take Winston over Bridges any day of the week.

    2. Well Winston wasnt lying when he said Bridges won’t make it to the election as leader!

  6. Your last line is as important as anything else you wrote here.
    Because as much as people love Jacinda, (a) she is surrounded by lesser mortals who have a penchant for stuffing up, and (b) voters are notoriously fickle.
    Over the next four months, we may see a few more own goals, which will erode the current level of support. By how much, who can say?
    I do agree that NZF are history, not so sure about the Greens.

  7. Oh how the mighty could fall. The simple truth is that Labour know themselves know what the hell they stand for other than preventing the Right from taking political power. The first rule of the State is to protect the people….

    And neither of these parties would have a clue how!
    If Labour were LEFT, if LABOUR WERE LEFT… then they would do it.

    Why spend money – lots of money – on looking at tax reform and doing squat. Why spend money on looking at benefits and then ignore the main recommendation and just tinker around the edges. Because Labour have no balls! Gee don’t want to upset the ‘hardworking’ middle class.

  8. But 4 months is a long time in politics. Neh Martin, this election and surely next election is a done deal for Labour. Don’t be too modest.

  9. Another thing that the media is missing is that National’s percentage of the vote is not the whole story. They keep referring to the early 2000s as the last time National were below 30% but back then ACT had about 7% and United future had a similar amount.

    This time ACT has 2%, TOP 1% and NZF has ???. Put simply we’re operating under proportional representation and right wing parties represent only a third of the electorate right now.

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