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  1. If National were running the Country many elders would be dying without any love and compassion so remember National were always lying before elections for instance remember the king lying toad who promised before the 2011 election that he would not to raise taxes and then when he got his second term he raised GST and sold our assets too, – so be warned.

    1. Cleangreen: “If National were running the Country many elders would be dying without any love and compassion…”

      Oh for god’s sake…. In the first instance, you cannot know the counterfactual. In the second, we elderly die in considerable numbers from the flu and other winter bugs every single year (except this one).

      I cannot recall any of you having an attack of the bleeding hearts over that fact, ever before. Where were the masks, the handwashing, the quarantining of rest homes, in previous years? Can’t remember it? Me either.

      So give it up with the Natz already.

  2. Well tbh , – that cheesy little ‘team of five million’ turned me off as well. As do other Americana B.S phrases like ‘we can do this ‘ or ‘ we got this’.

    And I’m not your bloody ‘family’ as well . Nor do I want to be part of the ‘team player’ shit either, – especially when I’m getting paid what amounts to B.S slave labour wages. You can stick your team , you can stick your ‘family’ and shove it hard up you’re bloody arse!

    But that aint Jacinda’s fault, – for that we must go back to Labours Roger Douglas for the origins of these tacky little Yankee inspired slogans. But she sure hasn’t really done a damn thing about purging that despicable 3 decades old mentality. Or at least, – nowhere near enough.

    I think Adern’s govt has done remarkably well. I will support Labour and the Greens. They are far from the Keynesian ideal, but there are some small signs… with a small ‘s’. I furthermore believe that the skulduggery regarding the recent covid outbreaks in Auckland was caused by non compliant governmental dept officials ( esp in the Health depts) who are tribal National /Act party people. They would know only too well how a little bit of tardiness, a little bit of turning a blind eye could release this crap into the community and be political dynamite.

    Yeah so lets not hear anymore shit about being the ‘team of 5 million’, ‘we can do this ‘ ( what ?!? exactly?) ‘we got this’ ( a dose of covid?- then do your jobs correctly then ! ), that we are ‘team players’ (nameless, faceless patronized plebs tantamount to just political bums on seats?), – and dont ever , EVER call me ‘family’.

    I’m not your bloody ‘family’ and the only thing you can ever call me is late for breakfast. And I’ll make my own bloody breakfast and it’ll be twice as good as yours.

    And I’m sleepin’ in today. So stick it.

    The Kid (He Swears a Little Bit)
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    1. I completely concur. It really was becoming tiresome. I mean did the P.M. really think Hosking, Seymour, Joyce,Jays, et al are part of a team of 5 million.
      Her jingle was wasted on their ilk.

    2. 100% WK Couldn’t say it better.

      Ministry of health is crap and must be torn down and put back as a ‘public health department’ as it was in the 1960’s.

  3. Good points.

    Thought I preferred music, but missing the old team. They had a way of making you feel included in their lives imho.

  4. Never mind “Team of 5 mill” fatigue, I am over the Nats endless “poor business is suffering” memes. Cafes and hospitality are substantially gone for all money–get used to that you selfish “I am my own boss” SME bastards. Now how about the thousands of working class people doing it hard to the extent of using food banks and Sikh kitchens? I would like to see their situations all over the media till we do something meaningful about that.

    I am one of the few on the left that seems to think the PM made a substantial error by moving the General Election date out a month. Just more opportunity for Covid to explode or National Dirty Tricks Dept. to really wind up their effluent sprayer.

    1. Tiger Mountain: “I am over the Nats endless “poor business is suffering” memes…… how about the thousands of working class people doing it hard to the extent of using food banks and Sikh kitchens?”

      You do realise, don’t you, that the working classes, whose plight so concerns you, are the ones who were employed by those businesses, many of which are now on the skids? National is exactly right to be concerned about them.

      Who are you to criticise small business owners? They’ve been making shift, like everyone else. They gotta eat too. And – as I’ve already pointed out – they employ people. Or would if they could open.

        1. Tiger Mountain: “So far up Nashnull’s rear only the shoes are visible…”

          Is that the best that you can come up with?

          Well: who knew. Lots of lefties run small businesses. That’s also true of this household, along with many others we know.

          Enough with the callousness and the lack of empathy. SMEs provide WORK, and contribute to the economy. Business owners are as entitled to consideration as everybody else. Or are we really not all in this together?

  5. All this criticism of the CV19 response coming from jumped up, over opinionated journalists is really getting annoying. Now TDB is echoing it and in fact condoning this whinging. What the fuck do they expect? Perfection? Look at our position. Just had 100 days no virus. How many countries can say that? What did these journalists do to help? Nothing special, same as the rest of us. Now we have an outbreak of CV19, the first of many, you morons. The team of 4.5m (take out the dissenters) will clean it up and wait for the next outbreak.
    And come it will. It will cause more economic pain and all the other shit that goes with it. Whinging about the Govt. response including the mistakes, especially the mistakes, is gutter journalism from a bunch of losers.

    1. Green Bus Yes, indeed, we are losers when we whinge about the manner in which a message was delivered. It’s childish behaviour.

      Serial complainants should stop watching somebody who irritates them much as the PM does. I’ve not watched one of the Ardern/Ashley shows, I get the info I want online, largely because I can’t be bothered watching. I’m
      not a Jacindamaniac, but find her less annoying than Helen Clark, Donald Trump, John Key eg al.a

      Suddenly some radio female and her lover proclaim their offence about how this news is delivered, and mushrooms are popping up squealing, “Me too me too.”

      New Zealanders have proven themselves dummies by electing odious socially destructive Nat Govts, year after year, so working on a basic premise that we function at kindergarten level, is not an unreasonable assumption.
      And since when have politicians not patronised the public ?

      My only, slightly bemused irritant, is the way people from all spectrums refer to the PM as “Jacinda”, as if she is the kindergarten kitty, rather than the New Zealand prime minister – that lends itself to all sorts of game playing that I can’t be bothered expanding on either.

      Most of us have done ok during the pandemic, harder for some for all sorts of reasons, but allowing ourselves to be diverted away from bigger national and global scenarios isn’t particularly smart behaviour.

  6. “….please shut up about the team of five million”…”

    This has pissed me off right from the very beginning. It’s patronising and smacks of authoritarianism.

    “….of an appreciable number of the voters who used to hang on “Jacinda’s” every word.”

    I was never one of them. I’d voted that lot in, but they’d lost my support well before the virus thing blew up. I’ve refused to listen to any of that stuff, having been thoroughly irritated at being lectured by Jacinderella (as an acquaintance characterises her).

    “…those frothing with rage that Stuff dared to publish such an egregious example of lèse-majesté.”

    And this attitude is the most pernicious aspect of the current imbroglio. In my view, Labour supporters are beginning to sound like they’re cult members. It’s both risible and disturbing. Definitely not my idea of how politics ought to work.

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