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  1. Good stuff Martyn. We should all be really concerned about them getting away with the lies and manipulation around the Dotcom case.

    1. +1. Sad thing is the dumb majority are trained to be hostile to that German guy…

  2. A good one Martyn
    We have become a little clone of America but without the autonomy.
    D J S

  3. Any one have any clues as to why Ian Fletcher resigned so abruptly after a short time as head of GCSB
    It is frightening to see our own US style shadow government( or Deep State) becoming so entrenched and above the law while we watch seemingly helpless.
    Naomi Klein once opined in an interview that it seemed there was a “blueprint” for all the 5 Eyes countries.Count in Israel as the defacto 6th

  4. @ in vino – yes MSM did a fine job making dot.com the bad guy and Key, the good. – straight out of the mouth of Malcom X.

  5. Go to the right wing sites and see what is of grave danger to NZ. It’s Metiria Turei. They don’t care about this stuff.

    The GCSB perjuring themselves in the High Court is fine but Turei lying is bad bad bad.

    1. Yes Pete,bad bad bad! Notice how they don’t mention the neoliberal breaking social policy Metiria presented at the same time. It is this ground breaking policy that has made them concentrate on the small lie and make her the devil incarnate. Surely Metiria should have known this would happen because it is textbook procedure for the right biased media. Shoot the messenger. They will keep this up in the hope it will drown discussion of what is excellent policy.

      1. Surely Metiria should have known this would happen because it is textbook procedure for the right biased media. Shoot the messenger.

        Probably did but doing so can come back to bite the people trying to do the shooting and I think that’s what’s happening here. The hypocrisy and desperation are coming through loud and clear.

    2. She did those things as a private citizen, long before she held ministerial power. Bill English did them after years of holding ministerial power, and as Minister of Finance to boot. To crucify her while quietly ignoring him is a brazen display of the hypocrisy and pettiness of the right.

  6. Little backward NZ. – now a dictatorship.

    NZ now has the most corrupt Government, with “making itself a totalitarian regime” with the most power over the judiciary and it’s people,
    – we have seen for many years.

    MARTYN SAID.

    “let’s not forget all the military intelligence as well that now take their orders directly from the Prime Minister.”

  7. Martyn we have an unelected shadow government revealed by the Dotcom piracy extradition spying fiasco. NZ is a vassal state of US Wall St #5eyes (Israel 6th eye apparently) globalist cabal run by unaccountable war mongering neoliberal transnational elites, read about Orwellian digital super surveillance states in Julian Assange article:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/opinion/julian-assange-on-living-in-a-surveillance-society.html
    we are already on the slippery slope to fascism imo while puppet NZ govt sits on its hands, vote them out come September, we can do better.

  8. Way back in the early 1960’s Eisenhower warned of the deep state which he called then the ‘ military industrial complex’ in his farewell address.

    The words were prophetic.

    He mentioned unwarranted and powerful un-elected agencies with ‘ black ‘ budgets , – as clandestine, unaccountable and operating outside the law and threatening democracy.

    This is essentially what we now have over 50 years later.

    Its well worth a watch to learn of what he warned against all that time ago.

    Eisenhower Farewell Address (Full) – YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY

  9. It was only after Kim’s hearing at the Court of Appeal where the corrupt Terence Arnold reversed Judge Harvey’s orders to disclose, that the admission of spying was admitted

    So Bill English is guilty of conspiring to defeat the course of justice (a serious Crimes Act offence) with his ‘ministerial certificate’)

    They knew one week earlier but every cretin from Crown Law and the Beehive failed to take it across the road

    Despite blocking the evidence Arnold later failed to recuse himself in a related hearing st the Supreme Court after being promoted by the AG. — Unbelievable! Bill Wilson pales into insignificance by comparison

    1. Let me clarify that statement, for anyone reading – whatever the weather.

      The GCSB continued to spy on New Zealand residents (and citizens) well into 2013. Yes, there were others. Perhaps some of them (and I don’t refer to Kim Dotcom here) were persons of interest for various reasons – the GCSB were badly had in 2012/2013, in several cases, and some of the circumstances were tragic. I even have a modicum of sympathy for some of those at the GCSB and SIS who were involved. They were just following orders, after all…

      But it was wrong. In respect of Kim Dotcom, and others – and it demonstrated that the the GCSB (and the SIS) behave without regard to the law. There is no excuse for the situations I am aware of, even for legal positivists.

      The case of Kim Dotcom is the most significant because it goes to show that these agencies act in an inter-agency manner, across countries, as non-state, hostile intelligence services who work for interests who do not respect out country’s laws, or the fact that New Zealand is a sovereign country.

      Respect to the New Zealand police.

        1. Yes I may have been being a little sarcastic there with my reference to the Nuremberg defense.

          1. Then again maybe I’m too hopeful. Maybe I developed a bad case of Stockhausen syndrome.

  10. Great article Martyn. If we are not careful we will end up like the USA where the intelligence agencies are running the foreign policy and the elected President, whether it is Obama or Trump cannot institute the policies that got them elected. eg. Close Quantanamo, no boots on the ground in Syria, cooperation with Russia against terrorism.

  11. I found this on The Standard after I clumsily could not find any links , but Anne graciously provided these – and apparently more can be found .

    I believe this first link is crucial to understand the deceit and lies of this government. And why I also believe Kim Dotcom is a geopolitical fall guy for globalist neo liberalism in New Zealand.

    Search Results
    Dissecting the GCSB bill – Campbell Live (Kim Dotcom scandal …
    Video for Dissecting the GCSB bill – Campbell Live (Kim Dotcom scandal▶ 16:11
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxytPFfTozE

    John Key discusses Dotcom saga – YouTube
    Video for John Key discusses Dotcom saga▶ 17:29
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m1xwiyNl8w

    Special Report: Megaupload Saga: The John Key Denial & Dotcom …
    Video for John Key discusses Dotcom saga▶ 7:11
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeCQTujvlHI

    1. Jesus! just seen the first link WK.
      Now I understand why the National party Inc, Weldon and Christie wanted Campbell gone yesterday!

      Lies,lies,lies John Key “I don’t know how I got his number”

      1. Indeed.

        And we all know what to call politicians and their political party’s that seek to silence dissent and create their own media narrative , …don’t we.

        Another major compelling reason to get rid of this National lying government.

  12. Does anyone really know anything about John Key, who actually was he and what is his background ie genealogical roots and family history in
    NZ ?

  13. Truly a great post. Unfortunately I don’t really hear much criticism/policy from ANY of the major political parties to change anything in this space. Stil fairly certain I won’t be voting this time, because imo none of the contenders are going to do anything whatsoever to address the real/serious issues addressing this country. I won’t vote for lip-service anymore – I want GUARANTEED line in the sand principle policy.

    1. Obviously you are happy with the current regime and you are prepared to stick with the status quo.

      1. +111

        I get really pissed off with people who don’t vote. These are the people who refuse to take responsibility for their governance. I’m sure that National loves them as they ensure that National will be back in power to continue their psychopathic rule.

        1. Well basturd. Something you may not have considered. Under the Outer Space and High-altitude Activities Bill. Iirc is still in its third reading. Under the bill all military applications of New Zealand’s space industry is not allowed. Which would bring us inline with UN guidance around space for exploration. There for military personal commissioned or not aren’t allowed to go near any hardware destined for outter space. The bill has industry support, cross party support and I believe public support. My guess is it’s going through.

          Incidentally the High-altitude Activities bill would put up significant hurdles for those promoting hypothetical theatre ballistic missile screens.

        2. I understand and respect your idealism. However, I think it’s just naïeve at this point to think your vote is going to affect any change in any of the issues you care about whatsoever in the current political climate. If you can produce some evidence to show how wrong I am on this viewpoint, I’m all ears.

          1. Nitrium, you don’t win lotto without buying a ticket.

            The American election should be enough to convince you that you just never know and that your vote does count.

  14. There is also the matter of the drone programme that we are heavily involved in. Absolutely alarming that we have created NZ deep state environment. That is the direct result of having “I love America john key” in power and he left once the job for them was done. Peter thiel is one bad cookey with direct ties to the cia and yet we say nothing.

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