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  1. And lets not forget todays genius headline from the Greens about not building in flood zones.
    Ya think?
    Massive issues with pine forestry slash yet again, remind me what our emissions trading scheme involves again? Hill country in to pine trees.
    How do electric cars do in a flood? They don’t.
    What powers the emergency generators after a natural disaster? Fossil fuels.

    1. The extreme weakness of the Greens, and the general unpopularity of Labour, seems to suggest that someone should be trying to start a new left-wing party.

      It isn’t at all clear how this would occur, though. It would likely require a defection from a sitting constituency M.P.

      1. TOP is on its way to morphing into this.

        I’m a centrist who has supported them in the last two elections but can’t now. They’ve included a policy that all residential investment properties have to be financed 100% with equity (no debt allowed). Which is so economically reactionary that it belongs in the Greens playbook…

    2. You have to cut the trees down to get slash, it has been announced that some areas will not be harvested although who knows how long that will last. While it depends on the size of the flood most vehicles would not survive the big flows. They only need emergency generators because the power supply was built in the wrong place, you would think that will be fixed this time although with the bean counters in charge who really knows again.

  2. Blaming James is part of the problem with the Green Party who have made everything worse while they were in power while not taking any responsibility (all the rest of the Greens seem like layabouts, pointing the finger, keen to humiliate aka leadership challenge, but too lazy to run) while James seemed to be the sole Green Party member attempting to do any work on the climate.

    Homelessness increased while Marama was in power.
    Warm, dry houses have DECREASED during the Green Party in power as they failed to address climate change and thus we now see many new and existing housing under water, land slides and destroyed.
    Poverty increased while the greens were in power.
    Crime has increases while the greens were in power.
    Terror and random public attacks have increase while the greens were in power.
    Climate change has worsened while they were in power, while the Greens spent their energy on race, identity politics.
    The current greens DROVE out environmentalist policy from the party – these are deliberate actions – such as signing off export of water permits and actually championing the ridiculous policy of intensification of housing – without any environmental factors being put at the forefront of planning and building.

    Greens have been so pro housing intensification that they failed to discover that half of all NZ’s emissions are not about the cows, but actually other areas like construction which they ignored and made worse. The constant demolition of existing housing and the replacement of grandiose structures for Kainga ora that literally fall off their foundations due to a lack of insight into poor NZ engineering, poor council practises led by central government forcing intensification through and reducing democracy and ignoring public submissions, terrible environment court decisions (based on removing democracy and accountability from this process), everything in NZ planning and environment court decisions have led to the current disaster that NZ faces.
    Lowering domestic skills in NZ by failing to have any real campaigns to help, apart from woke led Maori and Pacifica which turned most people including Maori and Pacifica blue collar workers who don’t agree with Maori woke led spirituality being cast as real science.
    Created a two tier system in Health and housing for Maori, instead of upgrading the entire system for everyone. The two tier system does not seem to have helped Maori.
    Concentrating on marketing and virtue signalling, signs and branding in Te reo while our services in NZ got much worse and management head count higher, transport situation with Waka Kotahi that constantly fail, instead of stopping flooding and destruction for Maori and everyone else here.
    Stood by – maybe helped, while dysfunction in government departments such as Oranga Tamariki put race above safety for kids.

    Greens lost many MP’s who knew what they were doing and more ethical, aka Kennedy Graham, Gareth Hughes and others have also resigned. Climate change activist breaks away from Green Party
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122070458/climate-change-activist-breaks-away-from-green-party

    The rot is not from one person in the Green Party, it is from all the Green Party MP’s who need personal ‘fossil’ awards for their destruction of environment while in power.

    I am not looking forward to male rapists now being able to identify as female as one of their signature policies.

  3. Like the majority of people I have a sense of shock about what has just happened to NZ. Seeing and hearing the stories of those in Napier and Hawkesbay almost seems like a mini Katrina in NZ, where government civil defence has failed and pretty sure that the frauds etc will follow, just like Katrina.

    Hurricane Katrina: Remembering the Federal Failures
    https://www.cato.org/blog/hurricane-katrina-remembering-federal-failures

    It is not just the Greens, Labour have done nothing (in fact like the Greens made climate change worse by bad policies) for their so called nuclear free moment. ACT, NZ First, Maori party and National are dinosaurs on the environment and set the stage for this type of destruction.

    All NZ political parties are all equally responsible for their lack of policy on climate change. Blaming James Shaw is typical of NZ inability to engage in long term planning, critical thinking, cooperation or science.

    Instead science and engineering in NZ has been getting worse, more fake engineers, less interest in quality applicants for engagements but more woke criteria on everything government related, lack of real engagement and listening to NZ communities around any issue, especially planning, a bizarre spiritual woke Mātauranga Māori version which has increased at cult like proportions getting huge traction with woke government departments while expelling out anybody that wants to focus on hard science and getting things done.

    Woke led Mātauranga Māori has not been signed off by all the occupants of NZ to be 50% of the knowledge of NZ going forward and be just as important as the international knowledge which by the way, is not a colonial construct as the woke believe – writing is widely believed to originate in Mesopotamia (Iraq), Maths widely originated from Roman times (Greece), etc

    Woke NZ is currently destroying the NZ education system with interjection of woke versions of everything which is pretty off-putting and not exactly engaging the kids, judging by our woeful and increasing truancy statistics!

    “From chaos sprang Papatūānuku, the Earth mother. Then Papa-matua-te-kore, the parentless, appeared. She mated with Rangi-a-Tamaku. Their firstborn was Putoto, whose sister was Parawhenuamea, the personified form of water. Putoto took his sister, Parawhenuamea, to wife. She gave birth to Rakahore, who mated with Hinekuku, the clay maiden. Hinekuku gave birth to Tuamatua. Tuamatua was the guardian of the different stones and gravel found on sea coasts. The younger brother of Tuamatua, Whatuaho, typified greywacke and chert. Next came Papakura, the origin of volcanic stone…
    Retaining understanding in this way has enabled Māori knowledge to be passed on from one generation to another. This body of knowledge arises from the experiences of Māori living in the environment of Aotearoa. Many people have realised that mātauranga Māori contains potentially useful knowledge, for example, about utilising and preserving the environment.”

    There is nothing wrong with learning some Maori spirituality – but when this gets 50% of funding in NZ and now polluting all avenues of NZ research and education, – the woke, cult, continues and more people are going to die, be uneducated, leave NZ and be in poverty while the woke spread their cult like insular understanding of the world and NZ resources are diverted to woke management.

    Council meetings start being about Karakia grandstanding, rather than planning.

    Chippie’s back to NZ reality might give him a bump in the polls, but the real rot is within the Green and Labour Party and their woke, management, power, structures.

  4. Shame. The Greens appear little more than headless chook bandwagon jumpers now. Shame.

  5. Shaw is pathetic. Can’t the Greens recruit a banker who can fake human emotions, like John Key?

  6. The reality is that if Shaw as minister had implemented all the nutty Greens climate policy it would have made not one jot of difference to this weeks or last weeks storms that have hit New Zealand. We are insignificant emitters compared to the big economies. That doesn’t mean we don’t improve how we operate but lets get real and not offer ourselves to the alter of the Climate God when our energy should be in adapting to our changing climate.
    Now I wait for the scorn of the climate zealots who want to change the world………….as long as it doesn’t affect them. Everybody wants to go to heaven nobody wants to die!

    1. The storm did not force people to be able to build in flood prone areas, near waterways that breach. It did not delete climate change from free trade agreements, council planning and environment court rulings.

  7. Ditto Richard Hills who has chaired the Auckland Council ‘climate crisis ‘ committee for 4 years and achieved zilch.

    Seriously though, NZ is largely irrelevant when it comes to emissions so our climate focus should be on making our infrastructure more robust thus able deal with the consequences, rather than beating up farmers.

  8. Before blaming James also think about how it’s the woke + business led leaders that have been in charge of some of the worst hit areas for years. Interesting reading about the woke backgrounds – could it be that combining woke thinking plus right wing business thinking is one of the worst combinations for the poor – who they champion…. into further poverty?

    Phil Goff – on the side of Roger Douglas, supporting deregulation and free trade.[11]

    “After the 1987 elections, Goff dropped the Housing portfolio, but also became Minister of Employment, Minister of Youth Affairs, Minister of Tourism and Associate Minister of Education (with responsibility for tertiary education).[12] Goff instigated changes to funding of tertiary studies incorporating financial contributions by students rather than the complete government funding that existed at the time. State funding was seen as unsustainable due to large increases in student numbers. The changes included direct fees and streamlined bursaries and student loans. ”

    On 22 November 2015 Goff announced he would run for Mayor of Auckland in the 2016 mayoral election.[51] On 8 October 2016 Phil Goff won the election, becoming the second mayor of the Auckland ‘super city’.[52]

    “Goff was formally sworn in as Mayor of Auckland at a ceremonial event at the Auckland Town Hall on 1 November 2016. Upon taking office, he pledged to tackle social issues in Auckland, such as homelessness, so that “no one is left behind”; he also highlighted a need for improved infrastructure and housing availability in order to address the social issues.[52]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Goff

    Meng Poon – Meng Liu Foon (born c. 1959) is a New Zealand politician who served as the mayor of Gisborne from 2001 to 2019. Background.

    “Foon expanded his family’s market garden business into several shops. During the 1960s, Foon and his family also bought Gisborne’s Kaiti Mall and opened a liquor shop called TAB. In 1985, Foon’s parents retired and emigrated to Sydney, Australia before retiring in Hong Kong. Men, his brother, and their wives subsequently took over the family business.[4]

    In 2018, Foon and his relatives sold Kaiti Mall. By that time, Kaiti Mall’s land and buildings were estimated to be worth NZ$3.8 million. By 2018, Kaiti Mall had 12 tenants including businesses, government, and commercial tenants.[6]”

    In 1998, Foon unsuccessfully ran for the position of Mayor of Gisborne.[4] In 2001, Foon ran again for the Gisborne mayoralty and was successfully elected. During the mayoral campaign, he highlighted his family values, business acumen, Māori language fluency, and financial management skills.[4][3] He was the first person to serve five consecutive terms as Gisborne mayor since Harry Barker retired in 1977.[7] In 2016, Foon won his sixth consecutive term as mayor of the Gisborne District, defeating three other candidates.[8] His mayoralty extended across New Zealand’s easternmost province with the largest proportion of native Maori population (45% according to the 2013 New Zealand census).[4]

    Following confirmation of the Ngāti Porou deal, arranged under the controversial Foreshore and Seabed Act 2004, Foon was quoted as saying that “he did not believe many people would be disadvantaged by reduced access to the beach, as 90 per cent of the East Coast population was Maori anyway.”[9] Foon announced in March 2019 that he would not stand again in the 2019 local elections.[3]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meng_Foon

  9. Marama blame white pakeha males for the Chch massacre .Chloe insulted my age group by calling us boomers James comes across as fish looking for a backbone . The Greens were singing the praises of biofuel until it was discovered to be very bad for the plant. Genter was in charge of transport and would increase the fine for mobile use while driving and road deaths climbed under her watch.
    When they finally got a chance to be at the table in 2017 I was interested to see what policies they brought up .In my eyes it was a great big vacuum of nothingNess .Such a wasted oppetunity no wonder Labour did not want to invite them to join them in 2020 except for the climate role.

  10. And yet all the mess and lack of infrastructure etc is very a hue of blue and red. The Greens have not been at the helm.

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