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  1. Yes–call it something else if necessary–but a universal income is needed right now, as a combo sooner rather than later, with free Wifi, fare free public transport and power generation and supply returned to full public ownership and control.

    In the short term we are two weeks away at best from looting, a crime wave, and widespread breaking of the lockdown. Modern consumers operate on a “just in time” basis like employers do. Shops always open, preserving food and planning ahead a long lost art for many. People surviving week to week are stuffed in a situation like this–a low wage economy and low union density has ensured that.

    I am close to a number of union organisers and know the specific questions they have been facing from workers the last two days, and it is not a pretty sight. Some employers, but not many, are doing “the right thing” and paying people for now, and then take leave, but many are dragging their heels, essentially cutting people adrift. There are two tiers of Govt assistance following the Ministry of Health dictate for nationwide isolation. This has confused some, but never mind, UBI now is the obvious way out of social chaos in the short term. In the longer term I agree with Mr Trotter that UBI would be a conduit for political struggle to roll back neo liberalism.

    1. It’s the case with all right wing governments globally that there ideology of personal responsibility and adapting ones life style to the changing economic system dogma is found wanting. Scott Morrisions Australian Federal Government blew sixty six billion dollars 2 weeks ago on his ideologically driven corona recovery package and virus numbers blew right past Scomo’s recovery efforts. Now is not the time for petty politics. The only leadership that can be tolerated is competence.

    2. Helena Jordan: ” U.K. Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens is of the opinion that this “virus” should no longer be considered as a high consequence infectious disease.”

      I hadn’t seen that YouTube clip, but I’ve certainly seen the above information elsewhere online, with a link to that UK government website.

      It’s a puzzle indeed as to what’s going on, both there and here.

      I’m in Wellington. I have heard public health talking heads claim that there is community transmission here in NZ; an acquaintance mentioned this, along with their belief that it’s happening in this area. I pointed out that there are no reports of confirmed community transmission: if there were, we’d have heard about it already.

      And if there are undiagnosed people in Wellington, it’s obvious that they aren’t getting sick (or not sick enough to need medical attention). Were that otherwise, we’d surely know about it already. Nobody could accuse the government of keeping quiet about the cases!

      Moreover, this is a small society: if there were community transmission, that information would have leaked out already.

      1. D’Esterre – They can be sick but not get attention as systems are overloaded. Unless you can name the source of you possible infection you will not get tested.
        So much for community contagion being tracked at this very important stage.
        I rang the hotline on behalf of an exhausted sick young man who could not get access to testing, and found the same response.

  2. Yes……The revolution cometh…………VERITAS ODIT MORAS….”truth hates delay”

  3. … ” Let Bridges and all the other neoliberal ideologues howl. After all, how much attention did they pay to the howls of protest that greeted Rogernomics and Ruthanasia? What goes around, comes around ” ….

    ——————————–

    Too bloody right !!!

    Excellent article, Mr Trotter.

  4. And renationalise all our vital infrastructure so it meets the needs of the nz people, not just a bunch of investors.

  5. So we’re all in this together, according to Ms. Adern. Perhaps, if she could travel through time, (and some people seem to think she is capable of miracles), she would say the same thing to those aboard the Titanic as it approached its iceberg. Well, 60 percent of the first class passengers (including 97 percent of the women travelling first class) survived the wreck, compared to 25 percent of the third class or steerage passengers. Disasters always expose the inequalities and injustices of class-divided society, as has the Covid-19 crisis, in New Zealand and internationally.
    And why do Chris Trotter and others persist in identifying “neo-liberalism” as the evil to be destroyed? There’s no such thing – it’s just capitalism. And if you don’t drive a stake into its heart to finish it off, to use Mr. Trotter’s vampire analogy, it will eventually reconstitute itself and come at you again. That’s a lesson social democrat heroes like Mickey Savage and Jeremy Corbyn were incapable of learning.

    1. ”Social democrat heroes like Mickey Savage and Jeremy Corbyn” were well aware of the need for a MIXED economy.

      Not one of pure capitalistic greed, nor one of Bolshevik Communism.

      What we seek is an economy much like the sensible Scandinavians…a MIXED economy. Our Australian born Mickey Joseph Savage was one who emulated that same sensibility as modern Scandinavian country’s,…and it is a pity, we do not follow that model.

      1. The structure of corporates controlling business and politics needs to change before we have a democracy.
        Where are our unions, workers cooperatives and broad based representative decision makers to counter corporate power of Business NZ.

  6. All for a UBI for NZ citizens only. We all have seen how many people queue up for handouts who don’t appear to need them https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/391713/kiwibuild-pre-approved-applicants-list-raises-eligibility-questions apparently 10% of NZ arrivals for the last 15 years get permanent residency without any income. Tarrant who blew away 50 people in cold blood was one of them, and I don’t fancy encouraging more of the world here to be provided for, even as they train for 3 years to kill others… Likewise the Meth smugglers who got permanent residency in NZ while never producing a NZ tax return https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11842563… Too many people flocking to NZ to commit social harm on other’s in NZ and the government does nothing. Needs to stop.

    1. Who allowed them in. We have more than enough people and the environment is further suffering.

      1. @ John W, Incompetence, ideology, right wing and woke policy, user pays policy, allowed them in.

        Also inability to change our immigration policy to dampen demand with globalism and cheap travel becoming available to the masses.

        Inability to look at Australia and China and mimic the same visa conditions to their nationals as to ours.

        Aka Australia has changed their criteria for Kiwis living in OZ when the immigration surge happened, so other Nationals living in OZ can’t vote and use the health system without certain conditions, but NZ just waves more Tarrents and criminals into NZ to fulfil their ideological whims here, and take up housing and resources.

        Likewise Kiwis can’t reside in China and get free medical, super and vote there but many Chinese (dual) nationals can here. Kiwi’s can’t buy a house over there and (not sure) but I don’t even think Kiwi’s can operate a Chinese business without a Chinese partner taking a 50% cut.

        We need reciprocal social welfare conditions for immigration to start operating ASAP!

        1. “Incompetence, ideology, right wing”
          johnkey and banksters international plus locally Business NZ plugging for more consumers and stuff the country.

  7. Capitalism has failed us all finally so it seems that a new policy incuding the best of Capitalism and socialism is the clear way forward not to have balance to include all who inhabit our future ecomnomic policy my dear friends. Great article from Chris Trotter.

    1. It IS a great article from Chris Trotter,…and despite my disagreement regarding Roosevelt and the Democratic party ( who supported slavery in the South ) , and ‘Honest Abe’ of the Republican party who opposed it during the American Civil War….I’m still a big Chris Trotter fan.

      I just think he has a few historical facts wrong . 🙂

      God bless you, Chris.

      Love ya.

      Your wonderful.

      Methinks we are best off to have a mixed economy as the Scandinavians have. I have always said this, I will never change…I know it is best for all,… for the rugged individualists, to the homely more conservative types keeping home and hearth together. And for all the less well off in society in which with a turn of the dial we could all easily become.

      Here ya go , Chris,…

      I can tell your an old rocker… just like Martyn is.

      I Don’t Wanna Stop
      https://youtu.be/2nX6qGeyaGM?t=14

  8. Dassle 72.

    I watched Jecinda on telly address the Nation for Lock down. She said. Act
    Like you have it. Fuck I nearly shocked drinking my beer. She has put
    Death wish on us. She is The Angel of Death. She backs Abortion Euthanasia. Murder. She is not what she seems.

    1. Keep your hair on Darrel. A lot of people are putting others at risk because of ‘but I don’t have it so it’s fine’ attitudes. All Jacinda was saying is that we need to take the same precautions we would if we did have it. If everyone does that, there will be a whole lot less community spread, and we can all get back to normal within a couple of months, as they are in parts of China.

      Latest news from the Chinese city where I live is that public transport is now operating as normal, with a full schedule of subway trains, and no compulsory temperature checks for commuters. Meanwhile, as countries close their borders to transit passengers and flights get insanely expensive, I’m wondering when I’m going to be able to return.

    2. She backs freedom of choice, do you want a right wing dictatorship, because that’s what you’ll get.

  9. Just gotta love the fact NZ and Oz govts are “negotiating” with the banks for a mortgage holiday…. of course you can have one sir, but the interest will keep accruing! So NZ has effectively shut down yet the banks that are given the approval by our govt to operate (and suck significant loads of folders from thee shores) end up calling the shots. Yet these funds are loaned into existence by the banks, so they create the money for your mortgage out of thin air then charge you interest for it…….this peeps is govt sanctioned theft. Who is in control, us thru our govt or the banks?? The answer shows where the problems begin. While we continue to believe in a human created system (neoliberal econimics and all the fractional reserve and usury etc it includes) that must have continuous growth on a finite planet, the outcome will allways be the same… collapse.

    There is a significant chance that those in charge (as you can see not your govt) will utilise this crisis as a perfect foil for a global monetary reset with them still at the top of the heap…. the question is of course was it intentional or an accident???
    And unfortunately labour/national leftwing/rightwing are all part of the same bird, try and find find any politician who questions the basic tenets of Neoliberal economics (MMT or whatever it is disguised as today). And unfortunately most of us sheeple are toooo darn busy surviving to even think about it.

    For an alternative view on covid-19 have a view of this
    https://www.unz.com/article/last-man-standing/
    read the comments as well, interesting times indeed
    Peace

  10. Does not look like we are going towards disaster socialism, but shock doctrine, disaster capitalism or Chinese/Russian totalitarianism in NZ. Our justice system seems to have stopped being fair.

    The good news for the woke, is that we are not racist!!! We have billionaires from around the globe, all different ethnicities who are now NZ citizens and residents to do with NZ what they will. What upstanding new citizens/residents are they! Sarcasm.

    Russian billionaire Mikhail Khimich’s drink-driving charges dismissed
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/120396897/russian-billionaire-mikhail-khimichs-drinkdriving-charges-dismissed?fbclid=IwAR3iWIfC3Obp5nTBB5vKqD_0Lc0owr6zs4DQID_4pPAqv0oE7qN6G1G_qv8

    The troubled redevelopment of the Waiwera Hot Pools complex by Russian billionaire Mikhail Khimich has ended in liquidation
    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/98194/troubled-redevelopment-waiwera-hot-pools-complex-russian-billionaire-mikhail-khimich

    Donald Trump, Peter Thiel and the death of democracy
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/21/peter-thiel-republican-convention-speech

    Mainzeal’s Yan says NZ laws don’t apply in China, won’t pay back $18m
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12271022

    Controversial citizen William Yan AKA Bill Liu admits money laundering of ‘significant sums’
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11835412

    Their billionaire business sense seems to be generating social harm to other individuals and small businesses in NZ, major NZ firms liquidations like Mainzeal left their subcontractors in the lurch and bankruptcies after years of local ownership at Waiwera effected the town greatly.

    But it seems billionaires are exempt from paying back fines or even appearing in NZ courts like local citizens are expected to do.

  11. If ever you were looking for confirmation the forces of Neoliberalism were prepating to defend their patch, Mathew Hooten’s column on today’s Herald says it all ….
    “One thing is clear. Free-market capitalism is unsurpassed at inventing, creating and producing houses, cars, iPhones, cool sneakers and jeans. We need to get back to it as soon as we can “

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