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  1. I was waiting with bated breath (not) for Garth McVicar to speak up for the victims of abuse in State “Care”.

    That man is not only fronting a racist organisation…but also one that is too stupid to see the best way to reduce violent crime is to try and mend the victims of that horror show that was/is State “Care”.

  2. Whats happening these days ain’t working, either we look for alternatives of just exterminate them.

  3. To be honest I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he (McVicar) has written and I suspect so would a lot of responsible caring Maori parents who’s own kids are doing well at school etc.

    1. You suspect wrong on my account, my children did very well at school INSPITE of the racism that flourished at their school. I know of parents that were trespassed from my childrens school because of their reaction to their childrens treatment. I was lucky, i always asked for another teacher who was genuinely interested in seeing Maori children succeed to accompany me to meetings with the teacher concerned.I sorrow for the children that have parents that have to move continuously due to losing their jobs, their houses, their dignity. Mcvicar is just …. words fail me.

    2. Wrong, my babies are doing well. And its inspite of the racism that we have to deal with. This McVicar muppet has no idea what Maori have to contend with. I don’t always agree with Bradbury, but hes done a pretty good job of recognising the struggle, and trying to explain it and offer a rebuttle to some of McMuppets points. Problem is people like you who will believe none of these problems exist, because racism doesn’t exist, because you never experienced it.

      1. You are correct in that that I have never experienced racism myself (I am Pakeha) so without being Maori I have no personal experience of the level etc of racism experienced by Maori in NZ.

        As with anything like this there are a myriad of contributing factors to Maori not performing as well academically in schools but I still believe that support of parents is a crucial factor and if it is lacking in some families the children are less likely to succeed.

        Also a clear barrier to achievement is kids arriving at school hungry and the sooner all kids are fed at school (as they are in Europe) the better.

        1. Of course the support of parents is crucial for their children to succeed academically. What a lot of people fail to realise is that these parents that have underperforming children at school have also had racial discrimination while they attended school, so when their children are treated like they are dumb, (they did this to my child, who in her last year at school got a fonterra scholarship) they feel they have no power, no voice, so they get angry and get trespassed from schools. Their is no quick fix, it is complicated and it took a long time to get to this point and a response to this problem by mcvicor is unhelpful and arrogant.

    3. James I also agree with McVicar..and for the record I am not a fan of him and never have been. BUT in this public statement he is right. The reality is you go to prison because YOU did the crime… Why do people do crime ..yes for a lot of reasons …. BUT predominately because of a bad attitude and bad values.

      Who gives children their attitude and values NOT the government NOT the education system ..or the prison service but the parents or whanau of a child.

      Yes poverty is a problem etc and can drive anyone to desperate measures, BUT the reality is that lots of New Zealanders over the years have had to deal with crippling poverty etc and have not resorted to crime. Why not their attitude and values stops or dis encourages them from committing crime . Bradbury lots of NZers from various backgrounds etc have come from awful backgrounds or faced obvious personal prejudices as a deterrent to their lives, BUT have still not resorted to crime, in their lives as a justification for the problems they have had to face.

      McVicar is right its time Maori families iwi etc started looking at their own values and attitudes and to what message they are passing on to their children as to the reason why so many of them are in prison. Also they should ask why are there so many many good Maori families NEVER in the crime statistics ? To me it because they have installed in their whanau from birth good values and attitudes, and not one of self entitlement because of their Maori DNA They have not installed a thinking in their children of what is yours is mine and I am going to take what you have as I want it. Or the thinking I am special etc why because I am a Maori and you who has no Maori DNA owe me attitude.

      I also ask the question as to the Maori statistics as to how many of those in prison would be better classified as New Zealanders ( ie a person of several ethnic groups in their DNA) and how many would still be classifed as a Maori.

      1. Pauline, your rant is so simplistic that it’s difficult to know where to begin.

        But I’ll ask you this question; do you think it is a coincidence that the prison population has increased over the past thirty years; as has poverty; housing unaffordability; entrenched unemplouyment and under-employment – during which the neo-liberal “revolution” has shifted wealth to the top 1% and jobs have been ‘exported’ to low-wage societies?

        What do you think is the result when families cannot live in decent housing because of low wages or no job at all?

        But I suspect your reference to “Maori DNA” speaks volumes as a racist redneck who has simply learned how to express your limited understanding on a public forum.

        1. Hi Frank,

          Agree with a lot of what you have written i.e. increasing wealth inequality bound to have a huge impact on likelihood of Maori (or non-Maori for that matter) to offend later in life etc but I also agree with some of what Pauline has written and unless you have valid reasons to do so (based on earlier comments from Pauline)? I think insulting her as you have done is not really warranted.

          My wife and I have 6 children and through my own experience of being a parent and witnessing similar relationships between other parents and their children it is clear to me of the importance of parents to support and encourage their children and it is similarly clear that not all parents do this (Maori and non-Maori) with corresponding consequences.

  4. It is obvious we are well on the way to creating our own Industrial Prison Complex like the States.
    Always running to keep up with the US and it’s corrupt systems, NZ has made vast progress in a short amount of time. Where the US incarcerate mostly Blacks and Latinos , poor, ill educated, unemployed and often homeless, we do the same to our Maori population.
    The US has a vast prison industry which requires cheap labour for some of the most prestigious corporations like Boeing, Revlon and Macy’s to name a few. Going rate for inmates is around 20 cents an hour.

    As the majority of crimes are petty offenses such as possession of small amounts of drugs, longer sentences have been imposed in order to provide the increasing demand for ‘slave’ labour.
    As the stock markets reflect higher profits for the Prison Industrial Complex, more prisons are being built to house more ‘workers’ (slaves).

    So we too are succeeding in building our Prison Industry with the call for longer sentences for more trivial offenses disguised as ‘3 strikes law’ , for building more prisons and locking up those charged with minor offenses who should be out on bail.

    The link below offers a frightening picture of the American prison industry which I believe this government is desperate to replicate.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289

  5. I really do not think the Sensible Sensing trust is racist . The people are just plain ignorant. He is talking about the education system as having failed those in jail. Well for a start it has failed himself as he is unable to analyse the impact of a narrow education on either himself or others. I have come to understand how the education system failed me in widening my focus on the first people of this country and it is only in later life that I have come to appreciate the gifts that Maori have in their language and culture. The media also have a responsibility in educating him and others like him in understanding the impact of a narrow English education on the Maori and the general population.

    1. Yup, Bomber speaks the truth, and those whose own unacknowledged racism has been dog-whistled by McVicar now rush to TDB to defend him.

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