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  1. To paraphrase Thomas Jefferson, “you get the government you deserve”. And yes, we risk sleep walking to fascism.

  2. You forgot to add the totally deranged Dr Evil Musk’s Nazi salute, which he did twice. What the fucking fuck.

    1. “My heart goes out to you” Musk touches his heart and throws it to the crowd and it’s a nazi salute?
      Musk doesn’t lose here the media do, what a crock of sh$t.

      1. Always the medias fault. I replayed it with the sound down so no media influence. The message he portrayed was that of a nazi salute. To say otherwise is a crock of shit.

  3. To get power Trump won votes across the divide of race ,sex ,religion and class .
    I would hate to be an American today as you know you have 4 years of lies and injustice coming but America has survived other Presidents with poor moral values.
    It will be fun watching from the sideline.

    1. Only thing is …it won’t be from the sideline …

      Add to that Luxon and Seymore are salivating ‘working’ with Trump…he will smell their tail wagging naivety a mile off …

      Just like China did with Key and English..

      They will be easy meat!

  4. The real worry is from right now there are millions of Americans, women particularly, literally in danger of their lives, for no crime greater than going about their lives.

    Not all yanks own guns–but MAGAs disproportionately do–US has had a previous civil war blasting away at their fellow citizens. Trump has green lit the proud boys and all the rest to go for it. Anyone think they won’t?

    US Unions and all progressive organisations have a big job in front of them, but maybe non MAGAs should just head for the coast and leave the hillbillies to it…except for the small problem of Silicon Valley CEOs now being in Trumps pocket too!

    1. Trump has big pockets, built for holding people and money. One could call him a Trumparoo as he has pockets and can jump in big bounds from one undying statement of policy to another like a kangaroo which gets the best grazing going at the particular time.

  5. “Labour leader Chris Hipkins congratulated Trump on his inauguration, saying the party wished him and the American people success.”
    However there remain a few on the left in New Zealand who can see that Donald Trump’s offer of a utopian future for the American people (and only the American people) must end in tyranny. Trump is a businessman and a rhetorician, not a magician. He cannot conjure wealth out of nowhere, and he has no way to ensure that what wealth the United States does possess (which is immense) will be shared among all its people with any degree of equity.
    So when the hopes of an excited American public are dashed (probably within the year) Trump will need to find a scapegoat. Someone or some group that he can point to as having sabotaged America’s swift return to greatness under his superb leadership. That could be someone close to himself, like Elon Musk, but it is more likely to be some marginalized social group.
    It is the very audacity of Trump’s promises which make failure inevitable, and some form of tyranny will be his only possible response to failure.
    Hipkins did not need to say anything to Trump. After all, he has had very little to say about the past year of Luxon-Peters-Seymour rule. He could have kept his mouth shut. He did not need to associate the New Zealand Labour Party in any way with the second presidency of Donald Trump. The one good thing about his congratulatory message is that we now know for sure where the NZLP stands.

    1. Geoff, you are late saying Trumps rule will result in tyranny. That tyranny has been in place for years. The real question is will he do anything about it? I’d suggest not.

    2. 4 times a failed businessman, he’s where he is because of his daddy’s money as are Trumps own children.
      Sad really.

  6. The crony politics of NAct are right on track to turning us into a corporate oligarchy, hot on the heels of the already fallen USA.

    Heed the warning of George Monboit, resist. It’s time to get serious.

    Motherfrackers
    Posted on20th January 2025

    Trump’s presidency is a reversion to autocratic tyranny. Only concerted resistance can stop it from spreading….

    https://www.monbiot.com/2025/01/20/motherfrackers/

  7. It’s still a shame that the writer refuses to acknowledge that USA is not America.

  8. Social anthropologists or some sort of apologists, have found that what people watch on tv and videos gets mixed up in their memories with real or lived experiences. So getting Trump in is just another USA extravaganza to watch and he looked as if he had a great lineup.

    Get informed on the run from these books. These explain and seem on the ball; and see if you can get books, don’t bow down to the machine completely, our brains may atrophy if we don’t read and our publishing houses will do so if we let modernity take over.
    These are ‘Introducing’ books. They’re worth their price, new may be over 30. but some secondhand too. You get top minds giving straight explanations. Could perhaps have discussion group and send the books around the group so each person buys only one but sees them all. But have to keep to schedule or someone will not keep up and break the chain. This is stuff we should have been introduced to when we were 11 or so, at intermediate.
    https://introducingbooks.com/graphic-guides/

    I’m reading through Continental Philosophy at present and it is something chilly to accept. Sometimes you can see that the idea is going over the top, and then I think, so are we now.
    The illustrations are great, and the whole thing is a work of art, science and commitment to facts (as far as I can tell). But commenters here may get insights – we may find a way to survive. They did in the ice age.

    For a change down to lighter reading of fantasy there is Young Adult Ruth Park’s ‘My Sister Sif’. It pays to take time out from coping with present for a sweeter line of reading.
    https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/ruth-park/my-sister-sif/
    nz – https://biblio.co.nz/book/my-sister-sif-ruth-park/d/1450729489

  9. “So who runs America matters to us”.
    Yes, but it is just one of those external factors over which we have no control and about which we should not fret unduly, though it is a factor of which activists need to take account in their broad political strategy. From my perspective “who runs Wellington” is another one of those external factors. What matters to me first and foremost is what happens in my own rohe, where the general trend happens to be positive. We should keep our main focus on that local situation.

  10. Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive, crack open the champagne and toast the Golden Age.

  11. David Seymour also congratulated Donald Trump in a rather weird fashion which illustrates the far right’s distorted world view. Seymour noted that the US is “the world’s largest democracy” a cachet usually assigned to India, which has a population four times that of the US. But the US has a larger economy that India, and since Seymour chooses not to see any distinction between “capitalism” and “democracy”, the world’s largest economy becomes in his mind the world’s largest democracy. That is why the far right regarded General Pinochet’s neo-liberal Chilean military dictatorship as being constitutionally superior to any society that normal people would regard as a democracy. If Trump was to turn the US into a fascist dictatorship Seymour would still regard it as “the world’s largest democracy”, and if Seymour managed to turn the Realm of New Zealand into a fascist dictatorship (something he would dearly love to do) he would still define it as a “democracy”. Perhaps more of a “democracy” than it is now, so long as the Treaty Principles Act and the Regulatory Standards Act were in place.
    The other rather strange note struck in Seymour’s message was his acclamation of the “peaceful transition of power” in the US. This is ironic given that Trump himself had resisted the “peaceful transition of power” and revealing that even the most devoted lackeys of the supposed “leader of the free world” can be surprised when it undergoes what appears to be a relatively “peaceful transition of power”.

    1. Geoff, you are late saying Trumps rule will result in tyranny. That tyranny has been in place for years. The real question is will he do anything about it? I’d suggest not.

      1. It is a matter of degree. Trump would like to create a paradise within the fifty states of the US. He wants to be idolized by a grateful people. But he cannot achieve those goals by rhetoric alone. Social conditions in the US will become even more dire, the vain hopes and expectations of Trump’s election campaign will be dashed, the pot will start to boil over, and and Trump or his successor will be obliged to to impose an even harsher form of tyranny.

    2. Is that a voice of reason Geoff F? I hardly know how to recognise reason these days but connect it vaguely with you. So presume what you say is as right, and correct, as it seems.

  12. Well, a ceasefire deal that was first proposed just over a year ago, that the Biden govt refused to sign off on, was finally implemented in no small part thanks to Trump. So hats off to him, thus far.

    1. Won’t! Might put one finger on one hat, but have to be prepared for the sky falling or climate change, one or the other is certain.

  13. Trump is a pig of a man who often appears to be out of touch with reality but if I was an American I would have voted for him over the alternative.
    Woketards have no one but themselves to blame.

  14. Even a hollow laugh is better than a full bucket of woe.
    From my book of exquisite graffiti:

    Keep things as they are. Vote for the Sado-Masochist Party.’
    Swiss Cottage (North London)

    Democracy is too good to share with just anybody.
    Auckland think North England one.

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