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  1. In the short and medium term, the way to start the beat-back upon Neoliberalism is to foster inter-generational co-operation against it.

    Hear hear!

  2. nice to hear some common sense…sadly though for many of the (hopeful) players reasons of self interest, both personally financial and political (and I don’t mean “boomer” self interest) this line of thought is likely to be lost in the noise as that “intergenerational warfare” line gathers pace…..classic divide and rule.

  3. So many wise words there , Curwen,… time and again you drove the nail home.

    It is the exact antithesis to neo liberalism – unity – that will defeat it.

    I get a bit frustrated when I see commentators advocating yet more division. Especially those from the center left. It plays straight into the ugly ideology of the neo liberal . They thrive on division , in fact ,- their agenda rely’s on it to succeed.

    To rebuild this society , and to reject neo liberalism wholesale , – we need a govt by created by the overwhelming unanimous vote.

    And to do that ?… we need in tandem with vigorous cross party united front campaigning – a reeducating of just what neo liberalism is , its negative effects on a society and the destructive effects it has had on New Zealand society in particular.

    We also need a viable alternative.

    And I cannot think of a more viable working system than such as the Scandinavian country’s use currently.

    Social Democracy and a Keynesian based economy.

    THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES !!!

    And I can tell you right now – there are far more wealthy Scandinavians than there are New Zealanders per head of population… and that DESPITE a workable welfare state.

    In fact they currently have many of the things this country had prior to the 1984 Roger Douglas years of Treason.

    Therefore now more than ever before ,… we need unity and cross generational cooperation to dethrone the neo liberal liars and wretches. And if this general election ousts this current pack of anti sovereignty globalists… the importance of unity will become even much MORE important post election than pre election as massive undertakings will be needed to be done to restore this nation to its true and rightful heritage – that being of the public of New Zealand.

    1. 100% WILD KATIPO.

      We see a emerging strategy between Labour and the opposition parties so we want to see NZ First in there as NZ First has many good policies that support us kiwi’s.

      Hallelujah!!!

  4. A nuanced piece, thank you. But I still have concern about the bottom-line, and knowing that several other countries that have age pensions have moved, or incrementally will be moving, to age 67; and of course, people are, and will be, living so much longer. It will have to be paid for; NZ is no different. Although the idea of a 2% tax on everyone, to fund super, is not a bad idea.

  5. Thank you Curwen. It is of course the globalists who are pushing this agenda, regardless of the fact that jobs are disappearing to the 3rd world or are being done by machines. It is an assault on humanity.

  6. So once again the baby boomers get full super at 65, while the millenials wait an extra 2 years? Gosh, what’s wrong with that picture??

    By the way, how much did Bill English pay for his university tuition? Near-fucking-zero, that’s how much.

  7. I agree that raising the age to 67 is unfair on millennials.
    I agree that National should have continued Cullen fund contributions.
    I agree the age cutoff is implemented too steeply.
    I agree that some people’s jobs mean they struggle to get to 65.

    But the reality is there will be more retired people per worker in the future. People are living longer. We can address it sooner or later, fairly or unfairly but something needs to be done.

    National having a look at the sustainability of Superannuation 6 months out from an election in pretty brace and should be celebrated, not critisised. Other parties should step up with their solutions, rather than beating National with a stick.

    And someone needs to price up the health costs of the aging population. The health budget is a huge part of this debate.

    1. Except we are one country and all taxpayers. We are really only robbing Peter to pay Peter.

        1. Be they allowed to retire at 65 or 67 the millennials will still need to pay enough tax to fund the super payments.

  8. NZ Superannuation was only established in its universal form in 1979 by Muldoon’s government.
    The previous old age pension was means tested.

    To say the Baby Boomers voted for National and carried them to power to enable NZ Super neglects the enormous numbers of older voters at the time. Many of the older non-Boomer generation were National voters and were at odds with the younger voters.

    Many of those in their Twenties at the time did not vote for National. They couldn’t stand the crusty old bastards.
    Many twenty year olds in the 1970s were not fixated on superannuation that would not be claimed for another 35 to 40 years.

    Australia has a means test which allows for a family home and about $540,000 in other assets after which the superannuation abates. If we follow Australia in so many things why can’t we work around some sort of means testing with a progressive abatement?

    I also see the current high immigration as a threat to NZ Super. With such a short qualifying time I can see immigrants and extended family creating a heavy load on funding.
    10 years is quite a short time to contribute to what could easily be 25 years of Super payouts. Many Boomers have been assisting Super payments to recipients for 25 years plus since the scheme was established, and paying social security tax for 10 to 15 years before that.
    Australia has its qualification set at 25 years which is not uncommon with other countries.
    Any OE years worked in Australia have the Super paid to NZ to subsidise the NZ Super for the years when the superannuitant was not contributing to the NZ tax base.
    This reciprocal agreement may not be valid with many of the new immigrant home countries. This also adds to the load on the NZ Super funding.

    Why is NZ so generous with its qualifying time? Just as we do with tourists and ACC claims, we pay out willingly to those who have not contributed fairly to the ongoing scheme.

    1. The old age pension at 60 was income tested.

      You could retire from you job at 60 and get the pension, It was called “The Old Age pension”

      At 65 you could draw a pension no matter what your income was.

      All working to 67 is utter rubbish.

      Where are the jobs.

  9. Good call Curwen, although there’s one thing I want to take issue with:

    “Part of the answer to our present circumstance, therefore, does obviously lie with attempting to turn younger New Zealanders into the sort of high-turnout voting demographic which can make or break elections.”

    I don’t think it’s realistic or desirable to think that today’s digitally empowered youth are going to become passive voters any more than it is to think they are going to start watching the TV news. If we want younger people to get involved in democratic activity in Aotearoa, we need to pitch them something more exciting than turning up once every 3 years to choose between two sets of temporary dictators. We need to be talking about forms of democratic participation that go on all year round, and allow people them to inject their knowledge, ideas, and passions into the political process.

    It’s deep democracy, not political consumerism, that has the potential to get younger people involved in politics. Once they’re involved and informed, and they feel like their input can have real impact, they’re more likely to make the effort to vote in elections of any kind. But this is just the cherry on the top, not the whole cake.

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