I’m sorry, but after Roe vs Wade meltdown, Luxon has to emphatically refuse to make any Abortion more difficult
I have to hand on heart tell you I never believed Liberals who claimed Roe vs Wade could ever be overturned!
I thought it was something we told our daughters as a scary joke while tucking them into bed at night, ‘You go to sleep right now or the Republicans will sneak in and take away your basic human rights!”
Every single one of the right wing Judges now preparing to take a massive leap backwards said they wouldn’t change Roe Vs Wade, and yet here the lying scumbags are prepared to betray their promises so their vengeful God can burn abortionists in hell.
Make no mistake this is a far right Christian attack on the rights of women backed by a lunatic fringe of 30% dictating to the other 70% something as intrinsic as basic health services.
This is the true legacy of spite Trump planted and its toxic harvest will literally kill.
That’s why, after watching all those right wing Christian judges make false promises to never tamper with abortion rights, we urgently require the issue to be put back to Luxon and get a clear agreement that ACT will quit any Government that attempts to restrict abortion rights and Nicola Willis will quit as Deputy of National.
No one is safe if the State claims this power over any one of our bodies, women have every right to expect a free abortion with wrap around counselling services if required.
End of story.
Luxon can do the 45 second CEO soundbite but he has zero intellectual curiosity, he is a devout evangelical Christian whom believes his wealth is proof positive that Jesus loves him. His policies will make things far far far worse in this country in terms of housing, inequality and poverty so don’t pretend voting against Jacinda for him makes you radical or edgy, it makes you a fuckwit, especially if he has some devout desire to burn abortionists.
Some will argue I’m being unfair to Chris who has stated that it isn’t an issue, but he agreed abortion is murder and I’m sick of being surprised when right wing Christians promise one thing and then do another when they are in power.
I’m totally over that!
After this attempt to overturn Roe vs Wade, every Right Wing Christian seeking power is under suspicion.
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I’m mostly pro choice – with some reservations over what constitutes a baby/human life, but where were all these shocked individual human rights campaigners when vaccination mandates were being forced on people?
Does bodily autonomy only apply to trendy causes? Or women? Or pregnant women?
(I’m mostly against vax mandates except for certain key high risk workers.)
I’m not sure the left has any moral high ground with the “rights to their own body” argument any more, because they argued against it so recently.
Why do the big government people suddenly go all individual rights over abortion?
Its one of the dirty hypocrisies of the political left.
Yes you can reverse the argument and point the finger at the political right, one reason I’m not a Nat voter.
The answer is there are few absolutes, and people who try and deal in absolutes take us nowhere but ever decreasing circles (hello woke).
Which brings us to Rowe vs Wade, the overturning of a controversial law which now allows states to decide abortion rules individually.
Perhaps as it should be?
(I’m mostly against vax mandates except for certain key high risk workers.)
The “except” fudge.
More properly put: you are not against vax mandates.
It’s not a fudge.
I think it’s fair for a limited number of roles to need to be vaxed – those working in health with the immune compromised for example, but my caveat would be those who don’t wish to be vaxed be supplied roles elsewhere.
So no one is forced to get vaxed or be fired.
KCC the mandates were based on the science (and actual evidence) that vaccination offered both protection to individuals and restricted transmission ( remember this was pre Omicron) of a contagious disease. As tricky a topic as abortion is, it’s not contagious and most of the organised resistance comes from people who have a fairytale as the basis for taking away rights.
I get that doesn’t answer the self determination argument as such but they are not really good comparators.
If you’re sick of being surprised Martyn then you’ve done amazing well staying in political commentary. I’m not sure why Luxton (and I’m not a supporter) should be under any more obligation to state something or be under suspicion anymore than anyone else. And if he states something – would it be an ironclad assurance anyway? Over the years governments of all descriptions have not stuck to what they’ve said or have brought in things they never campaigned on.
We’ve had promises to have aNZ that cares for everyone, reduced poverty, assets kept here, trickle down benefits for all, transformational politics, improved housing and health etc etc. What we usually get is policy made on the hoof and brought in under stealth. For some of us it is making voting very problematic and whoever I vote for I’m going to have almost zero expectations when it comes to meaningful change. As one of my colleagues stated – hers will be a protest vote rather than thinking it will do any other good.
That’s what politics in Aotearoa NZ has come to. I expect to be surprised – though not necessarily in a good way.
It’s highly relevant to hate on any Supreme Court Justice of The United States of America who pledged to maintain freedoms and rights.
Quick question for those who believe in the right of women to have sovereignty over their bodies.
Do you also support the right of people to sovereignty over their bodies to choose NOT to be coerced to take an experimental vaccine?
Bollocks. Nobody is forcing vaccination on anybody.
But if you choose to avoid vaccination when the vast majority accept it, you can hardly expect that majority to negate the decision they made by allowing you to mingle. You accept what you did was a minority decision, abide by the rules made by the majority, and you still have the right to debate.
But you don’t have any right to blatantly break the majority’s rules. Like it or lump it.
Apply that logic to the majority of residents in say Louisiana or Utah. You’ve supported Frank’s argument albeit with realising that you’ve done so
This SCOTUS decision hasn’t “banned” abortion or anything of the sort. All it has done is moved all abortion regulation (or lack there of) back to the individual States, which is where it should have remained in the first place (i.e back in 1973). Just like some States allow the Death Penalty and others do not, or now some States allow cannabis while other do not – this should never have been dictated by the Federal Government.
Incidentally, Poland also currently has an effective abortion ban – does anyone really think that Brussels (i.e the EU) should be telling Poland what they can and can’t do, irrespective of what their people wish via democratic processes? Let’s all just be like China where a totalitarian government makes all the choices for their people, right?
Of course they lied. Just like Ronald Reagan and Bush Snr lied about eastern bloc countries becoming part of NATO. It’s always very obvious when these types of people are lying. People are far too nice to them.
The basic premise of the question is wrong. It implies that the Luxon can convince the National caucus to have a “ban abortion” bill. There is zero chance of that happening. A substantial number of the caucus members are liberals on this issue, including the Deputy Leader. If Luxon tried this on, he would probably face a leadership challenge, mostly for being stupid.
So, no, there is no need for Luxon to respond to Roe v Wade. The abortion debate is effectively settled in New Zealand for many years to come. The only reason it would change is if there is a fundamental change in New Zealand society on this issue. Most unlikely.
So what if a 5yr old boy says it’s a girl?
It’s literally 100% nature vs nuture when we can’t apply an age limit.
It’s not one thing or the other anymore, woke gender ideology that institutions like the Auckland University of Technology introducing extreme leftwing brainwashing to believe that 1+1 can equal whatever morph thingy