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  1. I am surprised this tactic has taken this long to emerge. These people have nothing to lose. The west don’t care. The Americans are happy to have their 51st state. Given that business interests here have been championing trade with Israel don’t expect anything significant from us either. It is interesting that centrists within UK Labour started an anti antisemitism campaign against Corban a few weeks before this happened. Thus silencing one of the few western politicians who may have spoken out. Israeli policy for some time now has been advocating Palestinians being moved into neighbouring countries. Negotiations up to this point have simply been cover for a land grab.

    1. “Israeli policy for some time now has been advocating Palestinians being moved into neighbouring countries”

      I believe the term you’re looking for is ‘ethnic cleansing’.

  2. Bearing all that in mind, if Iran comes close to developing The Bomb, that’ll send the Israeli warmachine into a frenzy.

    The question is how Putin will respond if their ally, Iran, is attacked?

  3. Bit this latest protest *was* a non-violent protest. No guns and no rockets, just a few young men opting for slings and molotof cocktails. No Israeli’s were killed and only one soldier received a minor injury.

    It’s already making a difference to how people are perceiving things – or so I thought. The Israeli snipers were methodically shooting people with bullets designed to inflict the most damage to protesters, and yes they did shoot people who were trying to climb the fence but they also shot people who were just standing still watching what was happening. They must be the most cowardly military force in the world.

    Logically speaking peaceful resistance is the way forward but it’s a hell of a thing to ask of a people.

  4. Two sides of the same Zionist Coin. In this video link Ron Paul explains where Hamas came from. Israel created it to destroy secular nationalist Palestinian resistance. Goyim are just their cattle to use and abuse as they like as homo sapiens are easily manipulated, but who, or rather what, is really behind this reality?
    https://t.co/PycezyqUzJ

  5. How should one deal..? I assume you are asking, how should we in NZ deal with Israel? Haven’t you heard of the BDS movement , non-violent help from the outside world, requested by so many Palestinian groups since 2005?

    My reading tells me that the Great March of Return is not under orders from Hamas but rather a peoples’ movement, copying South Africa by reminding the world that they still exist , and appealing to the world’s conscience. Sometime ago a UN report stated that Gaza would be unlivable in 2020. Yet so many today state that Gaza is unlivable already.

    How should NZ deal? At least we could expel the Israeli Embassy. We could support the next Freedom Flotilla to Gaza, already on its way, and supported by Noam Chomsky.

    If the West continues to look the other way, the West is telling Gazan-Palestinians that they should shut up , lie down and die quietly. Journalist Jonathan Cook fears that the message from the West is “The only legitimate struggle for Palestinians, it seems, is keeping quiet, allowing their lands to be plundered and their children to be starved.” Note he says Palestinians not Gazans. All Palestinians are suffering. While the focus is on Gaza, nasty things are happening in the Negev, Jordan valley, West Bank and East Jerusalem.

    1. To: Chris Trotter

      The Gaza strip is a true Tragedy. I appreciate that you dealt fairly with the situation Chris.

      It was perhaps a shame you did not mention the hundreds of Jews killed by palestinians over the years. But you did draw attention to the Hamas Propaganda effort to use the children as lambs at the border. Sadly 51 Persons killed.

      I am not a Jew. Nor am I Pyschopath. But no Arab State has had any success in restraining the Arabs who now describe themselves as “Palestinians”. Not even Egypt or Turkey.

      The determination of Jewish people; their thoroughness; intelligence; and achievements will not be given up. Never. They will never trust English, Germans, Arabs, or Americans.

      Like Churchill, they will fight them in the air, on the beaches – on the land. For the Jews are not a rabble. No Race has ever tried so hard for Peace for so long – and been denied it by lesser inhumane humans.

      1. If Israelis don’t like being killed, they should not invade other nationalities land, don’t you think?

        1. Hi Brigid

          I think that Israelis have a right to homeland existence – as do Arabs.

          Many Arabs live and work within Israeli territory, as you know Brigid.

          It is a pity that the Hamas secular rulers require their Arab subjects to put little children up as propaganda. Reminds me of all that the Germans did in between 1936 – 1945.

          But blood and war will not solve anything. So why would you want want Arabs to kill people ? Wherever they live.

  6. “Hamas told them to be cannon fodder”

    And they went???!

    Have these people no agency? No personal fury, frustration and despair that would drive them to places of hazard?

    Jews are not a race. They come from many countries and reflect the ethnicity of those countries. It is a religion with a set of laws. That religion can be set aside, moderately followed, or be strict and extreme. It is not a homogeneous whole. Which is why we have American Jews protesting in Washington against this ongoing massacre.

    Within Israel itself there is this nasty little core of fanatics/idealists and yes, terrorists, who are equally poisonous with the like of Daesh.

    Observer Tokoroa mentions the hundreds of Israelis killed by Palestinians maybe. There is a certain hush about the equal hundreds of Palestinian kids held in Israeli prisons. Or about the walls put up blocking families from their grazing, harvests, livelihoods.

    This is like Ireland – and that inbred loathing may never be expunged – even if the religious versions pass into history. Papists and Proddie Dogs. To this day, despite the Good Friday accord – that fight continues.

    If the Israelis are so peaceful – restore the electricity and sewage systems. Remove the daily humiliation at the borders. Cease from excessive force, intimidation and wrongful imprisonment.

    America – butt out – unless it’s offering a ‘homeland’ for all the emigrant Jews. The fifty-first state and the right to freely travel to holy lands – just like the Christians and Moslems. Europe – butt out.

    The insanity of trying to cram zillions of urban-usually people onto a fragile landscape with limited water – will no one think of the consequences? Clearly not a certain core of Israelis.

    And – just when are we going to acknowledge Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey and other neighbouring countries for taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees from conflicts not of their making – including Palestine? For decades. It may not be great – yet it’s many times more ‘peaceful’ than poor little Israel. They probably need to be at the peace party. After all – they’re supporting many, many Palestinians already.

    Wonder why they haven’t launched all out war on the mighty midget. Perhaps there’s more to the story than we’re hearing.

  7. Ostracize it. Eject diplomats. End cultural exchange programs. Stop trade. This has got to stop. Has NZ had any reaction to the slaughter?

  8. how to deal with Israel? they won’t even let humanitarian aid through to Gaza, so sod ’em, New Zealanders with any empathy should deal with them like we did Apartheid era South Africa

    –Cultural and sporting boycotts–Lorde really stung them!
    –ramp up BDS to hurt the Israeli economy and finance capital
    –pressure govt. to expel Israeli Ambassador and close Embassy
    –ban Israeli military from holidaying in NZ,
    –answer and confront Israeli apologists and supporters in all forms of media

  9. I don’t accept the premise that sending people to the border fence to remind the world that two thirds of those in Gaza are refugees is a provocation.

    It is a legitimate form of protest. That Israel is prepared to shoot unarmed people does not change this – and there has been no evidence of any terrorist act by the protestors during the weeks concerned.

    Saying that, because Israel imprisons (and sometimes kills) protestors on the West Bank where there is occupation and kills those in Gaza behind the security fence, continued protest is “reckless/futile” martyrdom is to surrender to the jackboot that would remain on their neck forever.

    The American public would not care any more about them if they stopped drawing attention to their oppression, they would just celebrate the Israelis crushing them successfully – end the Oslo Accords, call for talks between Jordan and Israel over borders and effectively turn Arab areas of the West Bank into local council bantustans and call for the UN to administer Gaza.

  10. History is irredeemable, like a river it courses, flowing around obstacles or sweeping them away sometimes. When the river is FIERCE we are as mere pebbles with even less hope of disrupting the flow. But after consulting with the council of pet rocks and pinecones I bring you the goods again, have no fear. The only answer is WU WEI the art of non action, which is an answer found in purposeful absence from doing. This is at once the subtlest and most terrible solution depending on what it comes to mean, as anyone who ever cried for help and DIDN’T RECEIVE IT comes to know… when the time is ripe. This is the harnessing of natural karma…

  11. There can be no resolution to this on-going catastrophe until two highly unlikely conditions are met. The fundamental requirement is that the internal politics of the Israeli state/government/people shift drastically away from its hardline/fascist/ultra-Zionist position to a more liberal, tolerant and accommodating position – something that has actually had some glimmers in the past. The second is the position of the USA – it has to move from its total commitment to Israel (“totus porcus”, at the moment). Even if the first is met – the US has other geopolitical reasons for keeping the pot boiling. Unbelievably tragic. I can see my entire life spent with this horror rolling along.

    1. Nope. Not on that either. Remember that Slater was paid by the Israeli government to travel there to be “informed” by them. Therefore he is a shop-bought mouthpiece.

  12. Jews had an experience of meek submission in the 1930s-40s. They learned a lesson.

  13. HOW SHOULD ONE DEAL??

    1) HOW does our (Sophisticated as in 21st Century ?) Criminal justice system deal with criminals who present a constant danger/threat to public ?

    THEREIN LIES YOUR ANSWER.

    DOES ONE REALLY NEED TO ASK ??

    TROUBLE IS …the famous & hugely indoctrinated “ANTI SEMITIC” Label.

    OH WHAT A TERRIFYING WEAPON IT IS TODAY.

    1. You’re a Kiwi –

      You know, I never thought that otherwise ordinary decent Kiwis could get sucked in by rabid Arab Propaganda of the sort operated by Hamas and similar Arab enforcement regimes.

      Horrific Regimes directed at weak minded westerners.

      As you know, only the Arabs are worthy of being allowed to Live. For they are pure and innocent. They never harm or kill. Not ever. They are Beautiful like your sister. Nowhere do Arabs cause any harm at anytime.

      Do they ?

      So, my fellow Kiwis, get over to Jerusalem (where Israelis lived for centuries) and politely kick the Jews out. Lock stock and barrel. After all, you have been promoting that idea month after month. Year after Year. Go and Dine on the Propaganda of Hamas.

      You are the greatest soldiers as you tell us every Anzac day, who ever marched on the this planet. So, quietly removing the Jewish will be a walk in the park.

      You have called the Jews for everything. Absolutely Everything. Every Dirty thing is Jewish. Get rid of it. Like you say in your comments. Go and create Peace.

      1. OT. You surprise me.

        “So, my fellow Kiwis, get over to Jerusalem (where Israelis lived for centuries) and politely kick the Jews out. Lock stock and barrel. After all, you have been promoting that idea month after month. Year after Year. Go and Dine on the Propaganda of Hamas. “

        Some feast on Zionist propaganda it may seem..

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