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  1. So then how do we account for the closeness between China, America and New Zealand because China is growing so much faster than America and New Zealand they are economically superior.

    The comfortable answers for Chinas staggering economic superiority is that private capital was invited into China. This argument betrays how smart Beijing is in recognizing the bankruptcy of socialism. But these are warming stories, the kind that capitalists tell themselves but its wrong, and is common place, because critical perspectives are not allowed in.

    Let’s grant the grain of truth in the capitalist’s argument which is private capital was allowed into China. And here’s this word “transformation,” China went from a backwards 3rd world population in the 70’s after amine desease and war to an industrailzed food producing nation capabale of meeting the diet and nutrition of the Chinese peope which is the first of many, stunning transformations, the railroads, the bridges, the houses, the education, the housing, the jobs, roads, cities, museums, science, the transformation, absolutely stunning. China provided real on time medical care to a peasantry that had never seen it, EVER before. A first rate education system from kindergarten up training massive numbers of people particularly scientists and engineers.

    I could go on but this is more than enough to establish a simple irrefutable fact, that the conditions for rapid economic that growth-were established by the socialist government under the communist party in the first 50 years of China’s existence. With out that there is no rapid capitalist economic growth model that is achievable.

    1. The core of the USA is rotten and all but the uber rich are suffering under a brainwashed stupidity conducted through MSM.

      China uses capital incentives but that does not run its central Govt who steadfastly bat for the people.

      The USA will have another go at disrupting China with an aim of taking over after failing several times in the past and getting thrown out.

      The Hong Kong riots are instigated by the US using congress money and the CIA organised NED.

      http://themillenniumreport.com/2019/08/cia-color-revolution-hong-kong-protests-coordinated-by-anglo-american-intel-agencies/

      http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/august/08/evidence-of-cia-meeting-hk-protest-leaders-china-summons-us-diplomats-over-viral-photo/

      The stupidity of the “democracy protests” is that there is NOW voting for representatives in Hong Kong.
      Before China took back Hong Kong there was no voting for representation and Hong Kong was run from London. Britain brought in Indians to enforce their rule and the Chinese were third class citizens.
      There was NO democracy and back under there is voting for representatives so don’t be taken in by US/UK slogans and become fools.

  2. Like most of the ideas here, in particular supporting artists in NZ because that will actually not only create jobs and community, but also decrease mental health and crime.

    Also like “No immigration outside returning citizens and permeant residents” but also feel that the status of permanent residents should be removed from NZ law as most countries don’t have it. The only exception being the wind rush generation of NZ that have been in NZ for 35 years+.

    Too many migrants get NZ PR and then leave and it’s laughable that any foreign resident can vote in NZ after 1 year and get NZ benefits in 2 years. No wonder we need to give out free Condoms now. You clearly are not much of a tax payer or believe in democracy if you think that is ok!

    Migrants who rushed here during Rogernomics but have contributed poorly should be gone by lunchtime aka rich drug runners who never put in a NZ tax return in 26 years types https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11842563 and anyone who gets involved in a crime here especially frauds and sexual crimes which seem to be exploding in NZ. Our justice system does not seem interested in deporting foreign criminals and even if they try it years to do so. The solution is not to let people into NZ on mass hundreds of thousands as a time. Clearly NZ is a paradise for criminals and freeloaders and the whole world wants in on it now.

    Anyone who got PR and Citizenship in the last 30 years but not been resident here for more than 50% of the time, should lose their residency and citzenship here. It is crazy to allow people to come to NZ for a few years, then give them PR and citizenship, then never see them apart from when they want to retire here, get freebies on our free public health and social services systems, and don’t actually provide the skills to this country, that they presumably got in on.

    Should take 20 years to become a NZ citizen (or PR if they don’t ban it). It should not be used as an incentive for a flakey masters that is undermining NZ’s ability to property educate it’s own citizens to an acceptable standard for skills and creating a despicable culture of greed and poor decisions from our university heads.

    Also government urgently need to remove the ability for one resident visa to piggyback more visas for love interests and relatives off a resident visa and then before you know it there are 10 people dependant on one student visa and flakey gig job and needing more and more NZ welfare to stay here.

    We have a tsunami of jobless in NZ and a flood gate of future local beneficiaries – time to actually bother to put locals first, stop the migrant scams, which has not happened since Rogernomics.

    Coronavirus: Up to 120,000 Kiwis predicted to lose jobs – economist
    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2020/06/coronavirus-up-to-120-000-kiwis-predicted-to-lose-jobs-economist.html

  3. As for this one,

    Boutique High Tech Migrant Workers:
    .

    If the data companies come and bring foreign tech chop shops with them, then they will do to IT, what they have done to many industries in NZ, aka drop wages into scam territory and make our IT ability substandard and increase NZ brain drain in favour of Ponzi’s that introduce much poorer skills and scams into NZ.

    We have tech as the third highest export in NZ, so now is not the time to drive it into the ground by creating a government visa Ponzi, that has plagued construction, bus drivers etc, where it is removed local players who are displaced by scams, it becomes highly expensive to get anything done, and nothing now works as well as it used to.

    Tech makes losing money easy. Now is not the time to allow the ability for more IT fraud to foster here.

    Colour drained from real estate agent’s face as he realised he’d been defrauded of $120k in ‘sim hijacking’ scam
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121302846/colour-drained-from-real-estate-agents-face-as-he-realised-hed-been-defrauded-of-120k-in-sim-hijacking-scam

    Fraud probe rocks Team NZ reeling from America’s Cup spy claims
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fraud-probe-rocks-team-nz-reeling-from-america-s-cup-spy-claims/ar-BB16bl9d

    The High Court was told Malakapa obtained bank PIN numbers from customers when they applied for loans, using ATMs to steal from customer accounts. Credit union customers were predominately Maori and Pasifika.
    https://nzbloglex.blogspot.com/2020/05/fraud-malapaka-v-police.html

    1. Inclined to agree strongly,… we bemoan the fact we are not diversifying enough, that our primary industry’s are all tied up in one basket ie : China…

      Years ago there was a working group that was charged with being a ‘think tank’ for the development of local industry’s , – one of which was the IT industry. Well, that’s a big field, but one aspect we could be developing is IT componentry. That’s the factory floor aspect… but why not our own home grown data company’s… does China and India and California have exclusive rights to that aspect?

      I think not.

      If the same energy that was put into developing our infrastructure during the 1930’s and 1940’s was put into these types of industry’s,…we would be hitting all bases.

      So why are we not doing it?

      Whose vested interests are being protected here?

  4. If you can’t get to Wellington on the 25th of this month, the entire event will be live streamed here on The Daily Blog.

    Calendar marking. Best news in a long time.

  5. Here are my main concerns for the future of Aotearoa:

    1. STOP selling our land to overseas entities! China now OWN vast tracts of the body of Aotearoa. Organ harvesting at its finest.

    2. STOP selling/ gifting our water! WHY is that vampire nation allowed to suck our underground aquifers dry, when the future (as well as the present) is one of ever increasing DROUGHT.

    3. STOP the mad planting of exotic “forests” in displacement of the natural flora, the natural “skin” of Aotearoa. (More organ harvesting/ transplants in evidence.) At least stop the madness until full and comprehensive studies are undertaken of the actual environmental effects, of the extent of the harm being done, now and into the future.

    4. Stop poisoning this land and the water!

    5. Consider the possibility of a new Treaty. This would not be one between different people, but between all people who live here, and the land of Aotearoa itself. It would need to be based on RESPECT for the land and the water, the flora and fauna. …And on an understanding that we are the guardians, the caretakers, now and into the future, not the exploiters, not the abusers.

    1. the natural “skin” of Aotearoa.

      Actually the lungs. Trees are the lungs of the Earth, I read somewhere. Aotearoa’s own lungs are being removed and foreign ones transplanted. On a massive scale.

    2. Totally agree Kheala

      Here are a few good links if you do not already have them.

      We are heading in this direction…

      The scandal of millions of Americans deprived of running water
      https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2020/jul/02/the-scandal-of-millions-of-americans-being-deprived-of-running-water-podcast

      What happens to locals as the councils and governments give the water away to private firms…

      The fight to stop Nestlé from taking America’s water to sell in plastic bottles
      https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/29/the-fight-over-water-how-nestle-dries-up-us-creeks-to-sell-water-in-plastic-bottles

      Coca-Cola sucking wells dry in indigenous Mexican town – forcing residents to buy bottled water
      Bottling plant ‘consumes more than a million litres of water a day’
      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coca-cola-mexico-wells-dry-bottled-water-sucking-san-felipe-ecatepec-chiapas-a7953026.html

      Coca-Cola Charged With Groundwater Depletion and Pollution in India
      https://www.thoughtco.com/coca-cola-groundwater-depletion-in-india-1204204

      The company admits that without water it would have no business at all. Coca-Cola’s operations rely on access to vast supplies of water, as it takes almost three litres of water to make one litre of Coca-Cola. In order to satisfy this need, Coca-Cola is increasingly taking over control of aquifers in communities around the world. These vast subterranean chambers hold water resources collected over many hundreds of years. As such they the represent the heritage of entire communities.
      https://waronwant.org/media/coca-cola-drinking-world-dry

      Chinese company approved to run water mining operation in drought-stricken Queensland
      https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/28/chinese-company-approved-to-run-water-mining-operation-in-drought-stricken-queensland

      IN NZ

      Consent granted for Chinese water bottling giant to purchase Otakiri Spring
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104695650/consent-granted-for-chinese-water-bottling-giant-to-purchase-otakiri-spring

      Chinese water bottling plant’s proposal to take water from Whakatane aquifer ‘sustainable’, court hears
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/chinese-water-bottling-plants-proposal-take-whakatane-aquifer-sustainable-court-hears

      Canterbury water on way to Chinese market as bottling plant starts production
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/107721548/canterbury-water-on-way-to-chinese-market-as-bottling-plant-starts-production

      Whakatane locals outraged on government’s encouragement of Chinese water bottling investment
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/whakatane-locals-outraged-governments-encouragement-chinese-water-bottling-investment

      NZ Government Secretly Funded Water Bottling Companies
      https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1904/S00055/nz-government-secretly-funded-water-bottling-companies.htm

      Green Party members revolt over water bottling decision
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104668519/green-party-members-revolt-over-water-bottling-decision

  6. Great ideas-getting the collective back together. Wide support could make them a reality and finally roll back neo liberalism.

    and one more thing…lets rebuild a fighting central Labour Organisation-with a class analysis and working class focus. It should be the workers leaders putting up progressive policy, not leaving it to the Greens by default.

      1. OK, you can joke about them WK, but they make a life-or-death difference for many.
        Their use can significantly reduce – the transmission of STDs and HIV in a community
        – the number of abortions and related trauma
        – the number of unwanted pregnancies,
        – and of children born into situations of high risk for harm and serious neglect.

  7. Ministry of Works. Train some of those who need housing and pay them to build houses. No brainer. Look at alternative housing – prefabs, tiny houses, earth block houses etc. This is still our most pressing need, even over jobs and welfare in cash

  8. Also if unpaid work was considered more important in NZ, then we might have a lot less problems with aged care, disabled and child care in NZ. People are doing unpaid work for those groups all the time and considered bludgers or their work meaningless because it is generally not paid.

  9. If we move to plan B which is to open our borders soon, not now but soon there will be plenty of jobs for everyone. More people here equals more opportunities. Lets start with planning for people from low risk countries to come here and then work on a plan for people from high risks countries. We already have NZers who are coming from high risk countries. We will manage those high risks different from those from low risks and we can work out a system with the other countries to achieve this. And while we are working our way through this keeping the public well informed. Lets do this!

  10. If we move to plan B which is to open our borders soon, not now but soon there will be plenty of jobs for everyone. More people here equals more opportunities. Lets start with planning for people from low risk countries to come here and then work on a plan for people from high risks countries. We already have NZers who are coming from high risk countries. We will manage those high risks different from those from low risks and we can work out a system with the other countries to achieve this. And while we are working our way through this keeping the public well informed. Lets do this!

  11. Bring back local manufacturing because NZ is losing the actual labour skills needed to survive as well as the facilities in this country, as shown by Covid.

    Also shown is that NZ can increase exports without China. What we need to do, is decrease crappy imports doomed to landfill in NZ from places like China.

    NZ increased exports in February with Covid, even though our China exports had dropped.

    “Imports during the week fell in value to $1 billion while exports increased to $1.32 billion, despite a drop in trade with China, that saw both Chinese imports and exports fall by 14 to 15 per cent.”
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/120548887/total-exports-up-in-february-despite-chinas-coronavirus-lockdown

    In NZ apparently our 2nd biggest export is actually profits flowing out of our country (mostly from banking – need for financial services tax) so our raw import export figures hide the reality of who is profiting from the exchange of our exports aka a NZ based foreign company for the most part – who now doesn’t necessarily employ NZ workers, is closing down it’s NZ branches, and have the NZ taxpayers prop up their low wages with benefits!

    NZ’s supply chain also need to lose the imports into NZ of cheap breakable items (Meth a bonus, sarcasm) and then have foreign companies from China, buy up NZ’s waste management businesses to profit from the burgeoning waste issues from their own broken products and plastic waste! http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/605e6154/waste-management-nz-ownership-juggles-between-mainland-china-and-hong-kong.html Genius in the age of capitalism!

    Chinese companies can somehow get Auckland ratepayers to pay them a bonus not to export the waste back to China where it mostly comes from! https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12137606

    Many other former superpower economies that have destroyed their manufacturing bases by deciding to rely on practically all overseas manufacturing and overseas skills to prop them up like the UK.

    UK exports to China £22.6 billion
    UK imports from China £44.7 billion
    AH OH!

    Even getting a hospital gown in a once major manufacturing country has become very difficult.
    Hospital leaders hit out at government as PPE shortage row escalates
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/19/hospital-leaders-hit-out-government-ppe-shortage-row-escalates-nhs
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/leak-reveals-shortage-of-coronavirus-ppe-in-northern-ireland

    What happens when a lazy government can’t be bothered supporting their own experts and engineers and power industry innovation anymore and imports more and more into their country?
    Mysterious factory break-in raises suspicions about Chinese visit
    A burglary at an innovative Scottish wave-power company went forgotten, until a very similar project appeared in China
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/10/mysterious-factory-break-in-raises-suspicions-about-chinese-visit

    Brits are now getting China to build the world’s most expensive nuclear power for them guaranteeing the UK taxpayer to pay for some of the world’s most expensive power…. (when power is actually becoming cheaper everywhere due to solar power….)

    China’s long game to dominate nuclear power relies on the UK
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/26/chinas-long-game-to-dominate-nuclear-power-relies-on-the-uk

    By relying on China you risk retaliation on other strategic issues and losing ability to make independent decisions…

    Hong Kong: China threatens retaliation against UK for offer to Hongkongers
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/02/china-could-prevent-hongkongers-moving-to-uk-says-dominic-raab

    What is Apple gonna do if they fall out with China, because that is a huge market risk for them! CEO’s are driven by greed and not risk control which is why suddenly large companies are increasingly suddenly going bankrupt if they don’t have a plan B but they are caught by putting all their eggs in one basket and not having anything in place to train local workers, anymore.

    Opinion: How likely are reports of Apple moving production out of China?
    https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/19/apple-moving-production-out-of-china/

  12. . The CCP is an evil totalitarian regime responsible for numerous unspeakable crimes against humanity. Worse still, it has global ambitions. Not the global ambitions we want to see.
    We need to get with the current evolving movement. It’s time to CHEXIT

  13. GST off fruit and vegetables:

    Just do it already and give poor people some space to breathe.

    In particular, all fruit and veggies grown here in AO/ NZ. That would help many local businesses and local small enterprises as well. It would help us to “Buy Local”.

    Removing the GST from homegrown fruit and vegs would help us all in many ways. It would help reduce the numbers of people needing food parcels – presently in the thousands. It would help foodbanks and charity orgs to stock healthier food more easily. It would contribute to improved health of many, particularly children. It would make it easier for local growers to employ more workers. Similarly for local food processors, who would also be ‘buying local’ instead of buying cheaper imported items. Cafes, restaurants and other hospitality food outlets, knocked back by the tourism $ loss, would also benefit.

    It seems like a small thing, to remove that GST (15% !!) from our own fruit and veggies, but the follow on effects for us all as a nation would be significant across many sectors.

    (Also of note, other countries with GST or equivalent, including Aus and UK, exempt food across the board. Why do we in NZ have to be the mean ones, the stingy ones, the grab-crumbs-from-the-poorest ones. Not good. Not good at all.)

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