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  1. There are going to be many who have no chance to reclaim their underpaid holiday pay where the employer has closed the company or just disappeared.

    And can you believe this from Payroll Practitioners Association chief executive David Jenkins?
    “Every day (the) organisation was contacted by companies bamboozled by the Holidays Act.
    Payroll providers were feeling bullied and intimidated by officials who were failing to advise them on how to comply with the Holidays Act.”

    I believe he’s making that up.

    1. I actually do believe David Jenkins, but I imagine the people contacting him were small businesses genuinely confused by the language trying to parse it, (it confuses me a bit, and I can usually read legislation pretty well for someone with zero law training) rather than large employers who should be hiring people in HR and law who can tell them the answer anyway. It’s unbelievable that none of those large businesses never happened across the mistake- but that doesn’t of course mean that it was a high-level policy to ignore the mistake. It could have simply been a deliberate failure to up-line this as a concern to suppress costs, but that does point to a failure in culture either way.

      This isn’t exactly to excuse those small businesses however- they should have been getting advised by their consultants/mentors/HR software/etc… as to what the correct practices in New Zealand are. That’s why resources exist to support small businesses, and why the government makes lots of them easily accessible.

  2. NEWS FLASH!!! Hundreds of thousands of workers mistakenly over payed for years.
    Why do we never see this headline????

    1. Didn’t we see a similar headline over the last few years with the Novapay fiasco? And haven’t debt collectors been sent to collect?
      That’s probably a good precedent to follow in this situation.

      1. And INCIS the Police Computer system, useless politicans and government employees wasting tax payers money, nothing changes.

    2. Because employers probably take their lead from the government, who will hound you to the ends of the earth if you owe them money, but if the shoe is on the other foot, they suffer a sudden, inexplicable bout of amnesia. And when they’re busted, it just so happens that cheating you out of your pitiful wages was “an unfortunate oversight” which they “deeply regret”.

      And this why I laugh bitterly whenever I hear an employer being hauled over the coals by a union, having a big old whinge about “a lack of good faith” and “union harassment”. If we honestly felt we could trust you not to try and stiff us out of what we’ve earned by hard graft and the sweat of our brows, then great — good faith and mutual respect all the way. But time and time again we’ve seen employers cheat their workers through deliberate chicanery because they feel they can get away with it. And getting away with it is so much easier when you have a government whose track record on employment law, labour relations and paying people what they’re owed is, frankly, abysmal.

      I’d love to be able to trust my employer to do the right thing by me. But I don’t. And I most definitely don’t trust this government to make any sort of concerted effort to remedy the situation.

      1. Yes, the govt seems to love going after the little guys for a thousand here, a thousand there, while the corporates stiff the country for millions and it’s like, yawn, where’s morning tea?

  3. are we all entitled to back pay since they diddled us what do you want to bet JFK arrives with some retrospective stealing legislation to diddle us again.

  4. MBIE was responsible also for the last stuff up over incorrect pay to thousands of teachers remember?

    So this time Steven Joyce should be fired for a repeat mess-up, as he is the one responsible for setting up this oversized white elephant of a beaurocratic monster called MBIE “Ministry of Business Innovation & Employment” we should more accurately call “Ministry of Bullies, Intimidation & Enforcement” instead for MBIE, so go Mr Joyce and let some one better run the crappy MBIE, and I hope the next Government dismantle this monster when they take the Government over next year.

  5. Our company (in community health care and home management) just transfers the work to another day and then records that holiday days pay as “not worked”.

    1. You mean for example, if a person works 2 hours for four days of the week, the company records that as them having worked one 8 hour day?

  6. Now watch the Key government introduce retrospective legislation to quash any moves by the Unions and individuals to claim what is currently legitimately theirs!

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