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  1. Good accurate article Mike.

    Zürich is the home of the tram. Zürich’s nearby airport Kloten is serviced by heavy rail; not by trams. Strongly recommend so-called MoT and NZTA experts to go and see how public transport is done in Zürich as it is also a city with awkward geography. There will be other cities that can attest to the integrated use of trains, trams, buses, boats and funiculars for PT. It seems the experts here are more into political management and less into effective transport engineering.

  2. Think Twyfords tram set is the best we’re going to get and thy kinda suck ass. But at least there not Kiwirail. Never in my life will i ever ride them again. I’d have been more comfortable in the luggage section.

  3. Unfortunately we do not have any intelligence here in NZ when it comes to rail, they should be consulting with the Japanese who are the world leaders in rail technology.

    Japan has a country smaller than New Zealand and 125 million people, it is also one of the largest economies in the world processing manufactured product which needs to be hauled to and from ports for imports & exports.

    Recent Governments here have been buying old Chinese technology because they think they are getting a good deal financially. It is like buying a late model Toyota or an old Lada from Russia or Skoda from the Czech Republic ?

  4. The level of intelligence at Government and Local Government Levels on these type of issues is weak. We have people with very limited commercial experience or real world experience making commercial decisions on our behalf.

    FayRichwhite and Wisconsin Rail were going to make NZ Rail the best thing in town, then they did the same thing to British Rail.

    It will be very interesting to see the Cost Benefit Analysis Trams (Light Rail) to Auckland International Airport via Mangere Bridge vs Heavy Rail via the Southern Link & Puhinui.

  5. The level of intelligence at Government and Local Government Levels on these type of issues is weak. We have people with very limited commercial experience or real world experience making commercial decisions on our behalf.

    FayRichwhite and Wisconsin Rail were going to make NZ Rail the best thing in town, then they did the same thing to British Rail.

    It will be very interesting to see the Cost Benefit Analysis Trams (Light Rail) to Auckland International Airport via Mangere Bridge vs Heavy Rail via the Southern Link & Puhinui.

  6. +100, Hit the nail on the head with

    “The problem is Mr Twyford’s scheme is trying to do deal with two separate public transport problems at the same time, serving Auckland Airport whose throughput is predicted to grow to 40m passenger movements by 2030 and dealing with growing congestion on the isthmus. However way you look at it, it’s a suboptimal solution for both.”

    Also my view is that this is driven not for ratepayers who have to pay for it, but for a way to make them pay for the airport rail.

    Not being honest to their real motivations and corporate welfare is part of the problem. Put a tax on the airline passengers to pay for the rail. Stop making the public pay for everything that does not benefit them but just a few businesses in a few industries that are often multinational organisations that need to start putting their own hands into their own pockets of profits.

    Kiwis have the petrol tax. The money should be spent on commuter transport ONLY, not put them together with the airport that is a difference kettle of fish.

  7. +100, Hit the nail on the head with

    “The problem is Mr Twyford’s scheme is trying to do deal with two separate public transport problems at the same time, serving Auckland Airport whose throughput is predicted to grow to 40m passenger movements by 2030 and dealing with growing congestion on the isthmus. However way you look at it, it’s a suboptimal solution for both.”

    Also my view is that this white elephant hybrid tram option is driven to make the ratepayers pay for the upgrades needed for airport rail. They then tack on Mangere in an attempt to pretend they care about the poor and it will somehow benefit them (to pay increased rents and rates, with council white elephants and corporate welfare to carry the extra airport passengers, don’t think so)

    Being dishonest is AT and council colours, and the real motivation of providing corporate welfare is part of the problem.

    Put a tax on the airline passengers to pay for the rail.

    Stop making the public pay for everything that does not benefit them but just a few businesses in a few industries that are often multinational organisations.

    Kiwis have the petrol tax. Their rates should be spent on commuter transport ONLY, not put them together with the airport that is a difference kettle of fish.

    Don’t allow them to do a Britomart where they forgot to invest in the train tracks!! They are fucking incompetent.

    BTW experts are expected to write down what they are told these days so they are not reliable or even credible anymore. The COO structure of the council effectively collaborate together to pretend experts are all independent but are not and the council and Auckland Transport have been caught out cheating and tampering with experts before, to get the result they want. They can not be trusted with any experts anymore.

  8. Phil Twyford is confused. Even when he worked for Oxfam he advocated that lobbying the rich for contributions was the answer to world poverty. His solution for improving Auckland-to-airport travel really messes up traffic. Sam says kiwirail was no good for him so we disregard this as an option?? ofcourse not. Get behind a decent rail service & disregard pathetic posturing.

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