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  1. “much more expensive than extending the existing rail network.”

    So Council build an extension to this existing rail system and make a heavy rail service for passengers and freight to get more trucks off our roads as many other global cities do; – Auckland.!!!!!!

  2. ‘With airport passenger movements currently 19 million per year and predicted to increase to 40 million 2040,’

    Really! What sort of idiot would make that kind of prediction when global extraction of oil peaked several years ago and is in terminal decline?

    And, as if that were not bad enough, we are in the midst of an abrupt climate change evert which will almost certainly demolish current economic well before 2040.

    So, perhaps we should rewrite that extract as follows: ‘With airport passenger movements currently 19 million per year and predicted to decline to zero before 2040’

    ‘The March of Folly continues’. It sure does, with Mike Lee leading the way.

    1. You scare me so much with your crisis and that nonplanes will fly l just did a large poo! Did you have a poo?

      1. You should be scared!

        You should be very scared that the official narratives that drive policy completely ignore all the scientific evidence, and even ignore the reality of what we are experiencing right now, and are predicated on absurd notions such as infinite growth on a finite planet. You should be scared, if not for your own life then at least for lives of your progeny, if you have any. However, there is abundant evidence that the life of everyone under the age of 70 is going to be seriously disrupted by what is underway with respect to energy and the environment.

        You should be very scared that all government policies (and the idiotic policies of local and regional councils) are predicated on misinformation or no information at all, and are simply concerned with keeping business-as-usual -whatever rorts and scams that are currently in place- going for just a little longer.

        Try the graph at this link if you really want evidence.

        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/jan/26/in-2017-the-oceans-were-by-far-the-hottest-ever-recorded

        And recognize that all official policy is geared to making everything that matters much worse.

        1. Will the sky fall on my head so no trains should run the the airport?

          I had another poo. Did you?

  3. It’s alright cleangreen, Auckland has always cut its nose off in spite of its face.

    1. Yes it has Kim Dandy in many more ways than just one way; “cut its nose off in spite of its face.”

      I was born there in Auckland and went to school at Pt Chevalier but left under seven for Napier and hate going there to Auckland now sadly.

  4. Cui bono? Who benefits?

    Policy isn’t chosen out of a hat, it comes from somewhere. It comes from some one. It has a source. It has a constituency.

    Not only that, but for a ludicrous policy to survive and be driven through all the obstacles of government, everyone along the way must in some sense agree that the core constituents of the policy are worthy of support, against all reason and all opposition.

    This has been the history of the previous governments obsession with roading, and now this absurd light rail plan.

    Who benefits? It may be a collective plan by a small group of insiders to redevelop the Dominion Road corridor that began years ago. Many government insiders and friends may have bought property there in expectation of profit in decades to come, that a light rail could only enhance. These cliques would view heavy rail as toxic to all their plans. What is best for the city is bad for them, so they would likely exert all of their not inconsiderable influence at every turn to ensuring the Dominion Road light rail and redevelopment goes through.

    I saw this at Glenn Innes, during the State Housing struggle there – very angry old white men coming out at night to supervise the Police action and aggressively take photos of local participants. They were there to protect their investments.

    The thesis that government is simply stupid is wrong – stupid things come out of the system, but there is always a cause. Find who benefits. Literally. Whoever and whatever it is, find them and expose them. Identify their property interests, publish their names, show how they have influenced the process, how they were involved in subverting the greater good. Shine a light on them. Take it all the way up to the top and make it clear that support for this policy brings with it a taint of corruption. Do this, and it will fold.

    If you can’t muster that, then in 7 years, expect to be hauling your bloody suitcases onto a god damn tram while you spend a leisurely hour and a half crawling along a newly gentrified Dominion Road on your way to the airport.

  5. “expect to be hauling your bloody suitcases onto a god damn tram “

    There’s time sensitive freight headed to the airport for both domestic and international travel.

    There are lots of people doing the same.

    Have any of these so-called planners had to haul heavy suitcases, squeaking kids, zimmer frames and other clutter down the road to the tram stop or train? Ever?! Or is it cars as usual? (With the occasional life-risking bike.)

    Just building the shelters is going to be a classic – four suitcases, a pram, the take on luggage – and that’s just one average travelling group.

    These are not lightly burdened commuters clutching coffee and bus pass. Many of these travellers are seldom to leave home and they take quite a lot of gear. Look at the trolleys at the airport. Chokka.

    Where will the luggage go on this system? Who loads it/unloads it at the destination? How long does it take to get even one party on and off? What happens to the inevitable ‘running late! Special person!’ set?

    Will there be secure long stay parking near the pick up points? Who collects the fees? Who stomps on the taggers and opportunists?

    What happens to the unfortunates from other parts of the country who have no idea about the byzantine nature of Auckland? For the hicks from the sticks – including those from the further suburbs of the Auckland connurbation.

    Where are the connections and amenities???

    C’mon Auckland. You’ve sucked up billions over the years. You’ve bragged and bleated. If we gave you a brewery could you manage to get the party launched? Or will you flunk as usual?

  6. Because Labours end goal is to turn a large chunk of Auckland into Hong Kong.

    People living in 40m2 hi-rise apartments sited along the length of the new light rail system.

    The tram goes to the airport because that’s what Labour are using as the “selling point”, the real reason wouldn’t be quite as popular.

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