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  1. Since when did the National Party ever do things for the good of the country? Their policies are in place to please their major supporters & if anyone else gains from them that is coincidental.

  2. What you are missing out on in your deduction is the volume of Non GE modified crops the world market will accept.

    Sure you will get more for your product purchased by people who want to indulge in their needs with the GE free products. But how big is this market and is the market sustainable as world wide recession hits?

    In my corporate days experience; the premium people will pay CONSISTENTLY for “clean green” products is between 5 and 10%.

    The frauhous in Germany may look at New Zealand kiwifruit and pay 10% more over the Chinese grown kiwifruit. But will she do this on an ongoing basis? If she tries Chinese grown kiwifruit (New Zealand temporary out of stock say) and can not distinguish any taste difference, will she go back to buying the more expensive New Zealand kiwifruit? (will the supermarket stock even the more expensive New Zealand kiwifruit if sales volume versus the Chinese grown ones does not warrant stocking them).

    History tells us that she will not, for it makes not a scrap of difference to her or her direct environment.

    “Clean Green” is 100% overrated in regards marketing exclusiveness, that customers will pay extra for.

    Ask your self; why do people buy McDonald’s hamburgers when better and more healthy options are available? Same reason, good healthy burgers are 50% more expensive than McDonald’s ones. Hence they don’t buy the more expensive ones.

    1. Gerrit a long comment with 20th century thinking.
      Wake up man. GE is a dangerous drug for the mind as well as the crops. But eventually, like thalidomide was shown to be unsafe by experience and observation, we will find GE is so dangerous that there will be murder done. An unsatisfactory outcome and a failure of restraint in meddling with earth’s millenia-built factors.

      Stay away from it except in headline blazing special cases, and even then I don’t trust the wicked, wealth and power-inspired to abide by any restraints. Don’t make it easy for the ba….tards. Or are you, have a son, relation, already trained up and ready to be let loose like a lithium-powered arrowhead?

      1. Not arguing the pro or cons of GE, simply stating that the market for non GE modified foods is limited to those who can pay an excess for the privilege.

        To get non GE modified produce on the wider market it needs to be priced the same as GE modified food or people simply wont buy it. There is no premium attached to non GE foods. Only persuasive marketing will sell that food (easily) but the writer suggest that non GE could command a premium of 40 to 50%. That is a total day dream fantasy.

        A market exists for a 5 to 10% premium no doubt, but that market is small and difficult to service and distribute to.

        So sure market non GE foods but don’t expect the market to pay a premium.

        Bit like the argument for free range eggs versus caged chicken eggs. Price matters.

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/food-wine/food-news/105367829/we-want-free-range-eggs-right-up-to-the-point-of-buying-them

        “At this Pak ‘n Save, a dozen Farmer Brown free-range mixed-grade eggs work out at 58 cents each. Colony-cage eggs are 30 cents each, while standard caged eggs cost just 25 cents each.”

        “The beanie-wearing man pulls a carton of caged eggs from the Pak ‘n Save egg shelves, hesitates, then slides it back.

        ​”I’m having a bit of a guilty conscience,” he says. “I feel I should do the right thing, you know, those battery hens, but …”

        It’s the price, isn’t it?

        “Well, yeah, it’s hard but you need everyone on board to make a change,” he says, staring at the shelves.

        But when he thinks I’m not looking, he plucks out the caged eggs and walks off.”

  3. Thanks a refreshing well documented article that allows for the comic benefits of the public holding the line for gene edited food. There has always been a distinction here for the food , the soil and environment Ben and with the higher standards of the EU market NZ is an organic and trusted leader in many areas.

    Yes there’s a the push for gene edited pigs to help in medicine as on the mainstream media today .
    Lets not trip up and conflate the two as the pro GE business lobby attempted to do over time with media misinformation Ben W.

    This has been a good riposte to one of the National party leaders assumptions or election statements with the recent Sunday morning Jack Tame interview .Lets be aware this blog contains more facts than industry hype for our food markets here or overseas .whether niche or more reliability focused. China and Germany have certainly trusted our safer food standards , remember the milk power incident , the Helen Clarke govt hesitantly became aware of the ethical trade issues? This should be shared wisely to show the lack of depth of some of the general business assumptions of unregulated gene edited foods, we can’t fob off all the public all the time. Much of the spin or new GE developments are not proven to be sage as good research and articles like this demonstrate. Our Green holistic NZ brand is far from perfect , though. We do engage in country wide discussions on climate change , the intensive or dirty dairying with our rivers and nitrates (high bowel cancer rates) , the over use of Roundup or glyphosate based toxins, carbon emissions with the agricultural methane too. Look for the easier, tested solutions out of a lab first, its common sense , when we see the failure of ‘golden’ Vit A rice or the rye grass off shore, initially hyped, food experiments.

    1. Typo first line ? “Economic benefits “ are larger , why is there not more research on this and organic food , I think we know why its so one sided or hyped No au contraire , millsy, the ‘anti vax’ is far more about medicine ( on repeat, most know this) , not hijacked sorry, its rather than the GEfree and organic and the food safety standards.We have had the line of “being left behind 20 yrs ago” remember, there’s the opposite shown here . More research before the haphazard decision by National or Act for votes to deregulate “gene editing “ version ,as if, its different sue to ‘sniping’ genes or poor science. Why no public eduction on genome editing?

  4. Yes, I was againt GE in the past. However now, we need it more than ever. Using GE we can get the same or more milk from fewer cows, lessen the need for nitrates in fertiliser, get more meat from cattle, get more wool from sheep, and reduce agricultural impact on the environment. The world will leave us behind if we continue our ban on GE crops. We should be becoming the Silicon Valley of biotech (or whatever you want to choose), not some subsistence hobbit village.

    Thank fuck the anti vaxx QAnons have hijacked the GE free movement and made it cool for the left to support GE.

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