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  1. I suspect that the industrial slaughter of animals for meat has allowed most of the population to believe that animals do not have feelings which is why there’s only a limited number of people supporting animal rights. This allows farmers to do things to animals that almost all of us would not do to humans in the aim of production at the lowest cost while the system still charges the consumer as much as possible.
    If people had to rear their own cattle, sheep, chickens etc there would be the obvious physical limitations as well as a reluctance by some to kill animals that they had some form of bond with. If they had the opportunity to grow their own plants for food that would be even better for them. Unfortunately we live in a society where profit is considered more important than health so I don’t see anything changing.

    1. Woww, that’s a post oozing with pure ignorance Bonnie.

      I farm and I have multiple agencies, some Govt and some charged by the Government and some more local, watching us do it. I have zero issue with that as like an field, even interweb posters, there are a small number of utter muppets who need a kick in the arse.

      What is fucked up though is I am held to a higher account over the welfare of our cows than I am the welfare of any fellow human, including my mum.

      Farming – noun – The art of losing money while working 400hours a month to feed people who think you are trying to kill them.

      1. You call it ignorance, I call it a different viewpoint. What I know is real is the thousands of about 30 day old chickens that travel in trucks after being raised in conditions that end up with them only able to eat, shit and grow, the farmers care enough to make sure that they can all get food though. They then get processed which consists of hanging them by their legs to the production line when they’re short life is quickly ended by cutting their heads off. You didn’t specify if you had a dairy farm so since beef for meat farming is nicer to the animals I will just comment on dairy farming. We start with a cow/heifer that comes on heat so some person sticks their arm up the cows bum to guide the tube into the uterus to get it pregnant, about 285 days later a calf is born which depending on its gender and breeding value determines its fate. The male calves usually have a short life, days not weeks although the demand for bull beef allows many of them to have a reasonable life while they live, the mother cow gets to lose contact with her calf and endure about 9 months being machine milked so stupid humans can consume milk products under the illusion that it is healthy for them. I guess my knowledge is a bit hazy because it is over 40 years ago that I did a BAgCom farm management degree then worked on a dairy farm for 3 months with the intention of going share milking, I should have done valuation but I got into building instead. I don’t hate farmers, my best friend from uni brought the family farm and I know or are related to other farmers also so while you might call me ignorant and I do agree that people are often treated badly although they do not suffer the ways that animals do under our industrial production system. The farm I worked on had a couple of cows that were about 20 years old and almost all farmers are trying to treat their animals decently yet it comes from a mindset that animals are a source of profit and death is a normal event.
        I also hold the view that a better life is coming by Divine intervention where we won’t be using animals for food so I decided years ago to get ready for the change now.

  2. Mr Hoggard and his shape convey an uncomfortable message and looking at his expression leaves me with a feeling that he may lack some human sensitivity.

  3. Read up or watch documentaries about Moon bears and the bear-bile industry if you want even worse stories involving SE Asian animal welfare abuses.

      1. Don’t be a dick, it’s just a recommendation to look at that appalling industry as well. If it’s right wing then the logic of Q Anon’s arguments should appeal to you, and if you think I’m right wing then you’ve been asleep for the entire time you’ve participated in TDB.

  4. Oh come on – no deflection. It’s a big world and just keeping others in our peripheral vision but our main interest on our own doings and realising what is needed, is all. All else is regression so butt out about others faults; at this time it doesn’t matter whether mote or beam, they are both to be condemned and minimised.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mote_and_the_Beam

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