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  1. Agree Ian. Over crowded housing and the conditions of that housing impact the health system as do other big drivers we could do more about. Air pollution in main centres is also a great driver of respiratory disease, the burden and cost of which is significant.

    1. Not just overcrowding and possibly, pollution.

      Is rheumatic fever something that many are exposed to but few contract?

      The reason I ask is that I had some tests for something once that showed all the common diseases I had been exposed to, only a minority of which I’d ever contracted. I had antibodies for RF but never actually contracted the disease. So is this also about the disadvantaged circumstances that make some children much less able to resist such infections?

      I grew up in South Auckland where RF was rife, but I was luckier in all of the circumstances referred to. I remember what we called ‘school sores’ as being a kind of marker of a child living in extreme hardship. Again, I was constantly exposed by friends but never contracted whatever these actually were.

      Poverty and our inadequate health system are a national disgrace. I so wish there was political will to actually improve these appalling conditions. I see Ardern’s famous covid line ‘any death is one death too many’ is untraceable by Google now. (At least it was when I tried to locate it recently). I assume it was deemed only applicable to the middle class. That the line could come back to bite Labour in relation to desperate matters it prefers to ignore.

  2. Agree Ian. Over crowded housing and the conditions of that housing impact the health system as do other big drivers we could do more about. Air pollution in main centres is also a great driver of respiratory disease, the burden and cost of which is significant.

  3. Yes. The current government’s self – serving decision to axe the much needed Commissioner for Children says it all really. Shame on them.

  4. Good to know that healthy homes did not apply to state, community and emergency housing, until 2 years later than private housing. Sarcasm. Emergency and community housing does not answer to the tenancy tribunal.

    Woke cancelled the private landlord while making things worse for state, community and emergency housing tenants.

    They then blew out the budget on this. Previously HNZ returned a profit and all that was needed was to put that profit back into upgrading the state houses.

    Government faces 60-year debt blowout after building costs explode
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/government-faces-60-year-debt-blowout-after-building-costs-explode/R7L54GYHNIEJD3Z6TQDFOYRJMI/

    The obvious place to have started to build up better housing was state and community housing not the private sector. But they gave land away with Kiwibuild and kept adding via immigration, more people who were in poverty and need these state houses.

    More migrants are coming to NZ with high needs who get state funded housing, but this is impacting on NZ families who lived in NZ all their lives. NZ visas, residency and citizenship is very easy to get, and created a boom of people who can just access NZ.

    “It appeared the offender, who Stuff understands was born in New Zealand but his family moved to Hong Kong when he was only weeks old, returned in late 2019 with fraud on his mind.”
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121302846/colour-drained-from-real-estate-agents-face-as-he-realised-hed-been-defrauded-of-120k-in-sim-hijacking-scam

    Hastings family of seven get public home after nearly three years in motel
    “They moved to New Zealand from Samoa at the beginning of 2016” https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/hastings-family-of-seven-get-public-home-after-nearly-three-years-in-motel/QAYNIKSBUEJ5QD3ET6VIWSF6D4/

    Government needed to pause immigration, create conditions similar to Australia for migrants, and focus on getting better standards for NZ children and can house them, before adding to the demand with their immigration policy that seems to be adding more children, criminal activity and low wage families into NZ.

    Government fuelled a housing boom which was NOT about low cost housing but about maximising developer profits and giving tax breaks for foreign investors, creating more and more million dollar apartments and housing everywhere, that did the opposite, drove up the prices.

    50% of NZ construction of Auckland is now Chinese construction as they cancelled the NZ builder. Not seeing poverty lifting but are seeing a lot of cash labour.

    All this is fuelled by massive amount of right wing/woke braying immigration https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/128282098/nz-may-get-60000-more-migrants-than-forecast-under-visa-scheme-says-national of people who are mostly on low wages and have a lot of dependants – thus driving more competition of poverty in NZ especially children.

    Once migrant families get the work visas, then the responsibility of looking after their current and unborn children health and education care, falls on NZ state, which is doing a terrible job for its existing children in health care and maternity and actually driving the professional workers needed, out of NZ.

    Already more migrant nurses leave than NZ trained nurses and there are 2 migrant doctors for every 1 NZ trained doctor. Not sure that this approach has improved NZ’s health care and retaining the brain drain.

    It’s more like a revolving door policy of unsatisfied professional health workers leaving NZ. This is not about race, it is about NZ pay and work conditions becoming lower and lower over time, and they trying to hide this with foreign recruitment policy that is making it even more complicated.

    One the flip side, we now have criminals with dubious links to NZ, that are being deported back here. The government seems to think that’s a great thing.

    The good people are leaving and the criminals are coming back!

    Good to see the low wage economy that the Natz wanted, implemented by Labeen. Sarcasm.

  5. So, the size of your house prevents you from going to the doctor and getting a course of antibiotics?

    (Oh, and my house was never overcrowded because I only had two kids, and only then when I knew I could afford it.)

    1. So the answer is for every creature on this planet to be an Andrew?

      Fuck that for a life.

      1. Not at all – live your life as you see fit. Just be prepared to bear the consequences and don’t expect me to pick up the tab.

    2. Lucky you Andrew. That was then for housing this is now. You had parents or caregivers that taught you how to manage yourself and the world you live in. You are judging everything by 20th century standards – now we are living in one on the edge and some empathy and compassion and help is needed from the PTB. While you were growing up in some order, the government was running a parallel system such as Lake Alice that was a place of incarceration, perhaps torture, not sanctuary for young ones. And living conditions started dropping before 1984, yet we still believed that we were a good country, good to bring up children. So don’t be too quick, to heave half-a-brick of criticism please.

  6. Preaching to the converted Ian.

    But also good luck with that!

    Now, an in person GP appointment takes 2.5 months in our small city. And almost all of the several Drs surgeries are not accepting new patients for the last year or so.

    The world let health professionals age out or burn out during Covid and consequently, we are looking at a 4 to 7 year time lag as a minimum to get back to pre Covid staffing levels. Its inescapable and a worldwide problem. Albeit likely a bit worse in NZ than most places. And the poor keep suffering.

  7. Response to that unattractive title likely to be received from the PTB. ‘Stop defacing NZ image with graffiti-like memes of truth about the Nation. We have spent a lot of political capital building a fake Berlin wall against the denizens of darkness.’

    Remember ‘No news is good news’ and ‘What ya don’t know won’t hurt ya.’

  8. It all turned to —- when housing became, not a home which led to security in ones old age, but all about “mum and dad investors” and “getting on the property ladder”. and this LINO government is doing not a damned thing about it.

    1. Yes RosieLee but it did originate under National. Labour are to blame for not finding a solution to Ghost houses and cancelling investment instead of purchases of homes for life, something National and Act don’t want.

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