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    1. You have provided a common sense illustration of how things should be although the controlling powers generally insist in telling others what to think.
      Martyn often describes the devastation to the Maori asset base as the cause of most of their problems today and while some of them can escape poverty by personal effort the need for resources and higher education is still a limiting factor as it is for most poor people.

    2. You have provided a common sense illustration of how things should be although the controlling powers generally insist in telling others what to think.
      Martyn often describes the devastation to the Maori asset base as the cause of most of their problems today and while some of them can escape poverty by personal effort the need for resources and higher education is still a limiting factor as it is for most poor people.
      Getting politicians who actually care for those suffering so that they implement practical policies to help them is so rare compounded by a general reluctance within society to help others if it involves self sacrifice especially if it is considered that they are undeserving gives the mass media controlled by wealthy interests an unwelcome influence is shaping societies values.

  1. The complexity of historical treaty details are not the issue at all and never have been.
    Maori blaming and Maori bashing have always been the lowest hanging political fruit
    in politics and the media since the invasion.
    Right wing election victories since the invasion have always been dominated by Maori bashing.
    National was fuming after Bill English lost in 2017 because Peters switched to the left coalition.
    National always believed Adern was a fake PM.
    But Covid put Jacinda on the world stage and National was humiliated in 2020.
    The jealousy shame and anger that a nobody could succeed so wildly built over six years
    and by 2023 National were like rabid dogs ready to explosde.
    Victory was imperitive so gutter revenge politics were used to wrest back power.
    National and ACT appealed to the lowest most base instincts of the White voters.
    Maori blaming and the promise of Maori bashing and the “restoration” of White power.
    Of course it worked ,,,it always does …it always will.
    ACT did Nationals dirty work for them .
    National is now playing “good cop” with crocodile tears at the Maori Kings tangi.
    Winston first the King of Maori bashing and immigration bashing goes along for the ride.
    Right wing males ripping off Maori in 1840 to gain control.
    183 years later right wing males still ripping off Maori in 2023 to gain power.
    Politics is easy you dont need talent, least of all brains .
    Just appeal to the base prejudice of he majority.
    Just preach Maori blaming and Maori bashing and wait for the inevitable landslide victory.
    The more things change…………

  2. It will be Maori who lead the way in this situation .A solution will never come from paliament .Maori may well have to go directly to the king do get a resolution because it is with the Queen of the time the treaty was signed not an 8% redneck dreamer land and sea bed grabbing party of rich pricks .

  3. If NZ First and National bin it, that’s democracy David. You’re a big advocate for democracy David, right?

  4. That was one of the most intelligent and well thought out pieces I have read on the matter. Thank you to Geoff Fisher, and TDB for publishing.

  5. Well, it’s certainly buggered race relations to a certain extent. But then to the right – and Chris Trotter – race relations are fine as long as white people are satisfied. Maori opinions don’t matter. It’s only once Europeans get annoyed that race relations becomes suddenly … poor. You only have to hang around on the MSN news site for a little while to figure this out. No matter how innocuous and feelgood the story might be, if it’s about Maori or even if they’re just mentioned, the ghouls will descend the ghouls will descend with their shitty comments.

  6. IMO the reason a dead in the water bill is going through the motions of Parliamentary process is simply to paint a whitewash of legitimacy over the idea that Act’s racism is worthy of debate.
    It’s dignifying racism as a concept to be considered and pursued, and for ACT and the bill’s proponents, that, in itself, is a major victory.

  7. ACT has exposed itself as a truly White Right Wing Anti Maaori Party (aka KKK) with this Treaty Bill. Good luck for the future ACT as most New Zealanders don’t support your ideology on Race Relations F*** Off Quietly back to Mother England.

  8. I think there is a much simpler reason for the Treaty Bill and all the other Maori bashing policy that the government is rolling out. Race-baiting is electoral gold – if you target a minority effectively you will reap the votes of the majority. This has played out in democracies all over the world – from the anti-immigration hysteria of Brexit in the UK to Modi’s Hindu nationalism in India – racism towards a minority can be exceptionally rewarding in a democracy.
    National and NZ First know this deep in their political souls and are aching for a return to the political strategies of old that will allow them un-constrained mining of the rich seem of racism coursing through NZ society. Everything we are seeing from this government is about preparing the ground and sowing the seeds for the 2026 election campaign.

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