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  1. Thanks Dave. What is missing in all these policies to address suicide in NZ are the elephants in the room = alienation and poverty. Clearly there are people predisposed to serious mental illness and Mike King talks about ‘trauma’ as the main cause. That trauma can be sudden or gradual – grinding poverty for one, PTSD. Giving up hope in today’s world with all its ills is unsurprising and even realistic. Until these real underlying issues are addressed, little will change.

    1. It’s more than just poverty: it’s also the loss of respect for workers and self agrandisation by management. Those cases I know had been working people who’s work loads are climbing exponentially while on the same wage while dealing with bullying/threats by managers not interested in listening to there concerns – until it is too late. This is of course a primary facet of neoliberalism: if you were worthy you would be the manager.

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