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  1. Thank you for putting into words what I was trying to say for the last 3 years Monetary Finance. Why doesn’t the government just give money to itself.? If banks can create money/credit so can the government.

    1. That’s what Govt did for millennia and is part of the reason why we had no tax (as we would understand tax) in those days.
      A LOT of our tax money goes to paying (to privately owned banks) the interest on money our Govt borrows from then, INSTEAD of creating it itself.
      D’Oh !!!!! INSANE and THE biggest problem we need to resolve as EVERYTHING else invariably falls into line and is solved if our own Govt created the money instead of privately owned banks.

  2. Adrian Orr won the Golden Piggy award from the Taxpayers Union for the most egregious waste of money.
    In an era of willful financial negligence by government, he topped the bill.

    1. “the Taxpayers Union”

      A right wing off shoot of the National party.
      What is the unions experience in finance?

      1. Since you asked, their board includes:

        >A former CEO of the New Zealand Institute of Economic Research,

        > A former Minister of Finance

        > A former civil servant with a Masters degrees in economics in public policy from the Australian National University and from the National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies in Tokyo respectively.

        https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/our_team

        1. All right wing patsies since you asked. Nothing unusual for you to think that they are balanced in their dislike for Orr.
          Why do you rate their opinion above Orr I wonder?

          From 1997 to 2000 he was chief manager of the Economics Department of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand.[4]

          He has worked as an economist at the OECD, the New Zealand Treasury, and was Chief Economist for the New Zealand National Bank and Westpac Bank (2000–2003).[1]

          From 2003 to 2007 he was Deputy Governor and Head of Financial Stability at the Reserve Bank.[5][4]

          NZ Super Fund
          Edit
          In 2007 he was appointed Chief Executive of the New Zealand Superannuation Fund (the NZ Super Fund).[1][6] Orr said he enjoyed the job’s “beautiful mix [of] big, long-term, intergenerational challenges — and its hard-edge economics and finance.”[2]

          He has a Bachelor of Social Sciences (Economics and Geography) from the University of Waikato, and a master’s degree in development economics (with distinction) from the University of Leicester, England.[1][3]

          Since you asked.

    2. Not forgetting the Taxpayers Union which mimics the Tories Taxpayers Alliance in the U.K had its hand out for Govt subsidies….!Very flexible of them and their…principles.

  3. Social Credit has always been ahead of the game. Modern Monetary Theory, by whatever name you wish to call it, is the way for sovereign governments to use their fiscal capability ( mea culpa Bill Mitchell if I am getting things a bit wrong). But let us not be confused by thinking that such financing is the Central (Reserve) Bank coming to the rescue of a government. The government is the one in charge and Central Bank independence is a convenient fiction. The supposed technical independence should be ended.

  4. Milton Friedman also advocated injecting fiat money into the economy though being of a neoliberal bent he was somewhat stingy with the amounts. He also advocated offseting this by imposing a 100% reserve ratio on the trading banks. This would have stopped them lending out money that in theory belonged to the demand depositors, and thereby increasing the money supply. I’m not sure though what this would have done to interest rates if businesses wanted to continue borrowing from the trading banks.

  5. Adrian Orr has achieved the lowest inflation in the world (lower than Australia), record low unemployment, record exports (and profits for business), kept Aotearoan’s in employment, kept businesses active and all other numbers are favorable so why should he be sacked. Typical Tory media beat up and retro Joe fools. NZ has had the best economy in the last 3 years despite a global pandemic and associated economical disruption. Other Countries especially the right wing/tory governments have been ended up with massive deaths and economic hardship.

    1. All good but he he still has work to do… there 140,000 kiwis unemployed and underemployed.

        1. Please define “unemployable”
          Does that include overqualified, over 50 of age,
          those with achievement record that exposes inadequacy of others, those who do not care about rugby or cricket?
          So often employers require “excellent written and verbal communication skills” – meaning : “No effing migrants”.

    2. Spot on again, the right will screech from the roofs at this post. He is also responsible for bringing down house prices so no complaints from anyone for that financial correction.

  6. And ahead of 121 including Australia and the USA, Ireland, Singapore, South Africa etc.

    Good stat Alan M but completely irrelevant.

  7. Adrian Orr is king gaslighter, pretending to care about Maori whilst making life hardest for renters and wannabe home owners. The man is one cruel sick puppy.

  8. In New Zealand’s case Milton Friedman was wrong when he said “Only a crisis – actual or perceived – produces real change”.
    NZ wants to forge its own way into hell. Don’t tell us to evaluate the best procedure – we know instinctively what to do. We boldly go where no man has tread, and create our own crisis – so there!

    In 2020, when the need to support incomes became patently clear, the government stepped in with its wage subsidy scheme. Helicopter money and other income support options were floated.
    Economists like Ganesh Nana, now head of the Productivity Commission, and Geoff Bertram, politicians like Jim Bolger and former Finance Minister Michael Cullen, and commentators like Bernard Hickey, were all proposing ideas that just a few short months earlier would have been unthinkable. (More here – https://www.socialcredit.nz/quotesfromeconomistsandexperts)
    Those ideas were not unknown, or untried, just not talked about in the Neo Liberal economic environment our economy has been operating in.

    Milton Friedman, one of the main regurgitators of that line of economic thinking (the world had tried it before in the late nineteenth century. It was an abject failure then too.) said “Only a crisis – actual or perceived – produces real change. When that process occurs the actions that are taken depend on the ideas that are lying around”.

    It’s near Christmas – if employment feelers are out for Father Christmases, Mr Orr would be most suitable as one with the right cheery, rosy look. He may not carry out his duties very thoroughly and fairly though, only taking gifts to the best houses, and leaving vouchers with a ‘huge 50% discount’ for Boxing Day sales for the rest.

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