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  1. Here is an apparently factual piece of information about the spread of Covid-19 put up on TS by joe90 who seems dedicated to facts from reliable sources. And following that I will try to show a comparison with growth rates in the USA and Italy which are looking very similar (which means that the USA could have the same high rates as Italy.)
    joe90 7.1.1
    10 March 2020 at 8:34 pm Daily Review
    Google is your friend.
    Conclusion
    I’m fairly confident that, left unchecked, COVID-19 will increase at a doubling time of 2-3 days. When containment in breached in a location this is the rate that the growth occurs at over the first few week or so.
    When effective measures are put in place this decreases. An effective quarantine may be able to convert the growth into a sigmoid function with a limit on the failure rate.
    Some locations (Japan, Singapore, Australia and Hong Kong) have managed to avoid exponential growth despite having a large number of cases.
    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KJBQ7GiyvFTBnSEEC/growth-rate-of-covid-19-outbreaks

    And this chart showing Italy and USA is startling. I hope it will show up for you, or look up the The Standard site.
    joe90 7 Daily Review
    10 March 2020 at 8:18 pm
    Twelve days ago Italy had 600 Covid-19 cases. Today, it has nearly 10,000 cases and the entire country is shut.
    Here’s what the last 5 days of #COVID19US growth look like mapped to the Italian epidemic starting 2/22. Trajectory looks awful similar.

  2. Scotland and NZ have similar populations – Scotland’s 5.438 million (2018), us much the same.
    (For 2018 it showed London at 8.9 million and England at 56 million approx. You can see how that entity dominates the UK, its directives, and its direction.)

    Scotland at 12 March had under 50 Covid-19 cases – to 24 March shows 500 cases.
    Scotland have deaths rising from 1 daily 13-16 March to 14 at 23 March, one week later
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-52009463

    And a video from an early case off the cruise ship. With a good explanation of what the signs are and problems establishing temp etc.
    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2E1t3yMXgE

  3. Me again^!^ WHO says:
    “But we are not prisoners to statistics. We’re not helpless bystanders. We can change the trajectory of this pandemic,” Tedros told an online briefing for more than 300 journalists.
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/412473/coronavirus-who-warns-pandemic-is-accelerating
    You can look up the stats yourself.

    And Chris Martenson Peak Prosperity has lots of interesting reasoned factual stuff and explains well.
    https://www.peakprosperity.com/even-the-young-healthy-are-getting-the-coronavirus/
    (Martenson mentions social control down in South London and parts of New York I think)
    Mentions that a mask should be worn. Air and droplets together which spreads anything and a mask means sure held in and not go to others, and fair as thing are now. NZ praised around 20 mins. Then goes through
    progress day by day, might be light up to 5 days then….

    But we in NZ are doing the right thing. it seems. Except in my opinion, that we need to set up managed isolation for returning NZs and others able to come here. Otherwise they can be loose cannons, and we don’t want them scattered around and having to be chased. People who feel good can understandably feel as if they ARE fine, when they ain’t. And the couple explaining it all on the cruise ship youtube link above put stress on that. (Didn’t have a headache.)
    Note – * You can have antibiotics for bacterial pneumonia but not viral pneumonia. Find which you have.
    * There are three types of thermometers – one for under tongue, one under arm, one up rear. They give different readings.
    * About 20 mins into link it’s about lung breathing. Lung exercises. EFT Emotional Freedom Technique – Gary Craig which he recommends – he used it to expand his lungs and improve breathing – test showed 93 to 99 and he got better all the time.
    * He recommends home remedy of salt gargling for throat.

  4. Kia ora Bryan.
    You repeat Jacinda’s claim “there will be food for all of us over the coming weeks”.
    Clearly the large number of New Zealanders who are “panic buying” grocery items did not believe her.
    And now, arguably as a result of self-fulfilling doubt, there are shortages.
    If the shortages are rectified within days then we will have to allow that Jacinda may have been right. But if they continue through the next four weeks then we will know that there are things she is not telling us about the fragility of the food supply chain in New Zealand.

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