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  1. As the PM has said on Morning Report she believes peoples attitudes to vaccination are only a small part of the problem. Access and poverty issues are key. It may as always be convenient to find the anti vaxxers as some kind of evil to blame but 95% coverage has always been elusive. If this is deemed necessary then it should be free and easy to access. Enough of the demonising

      1. Sam, the mmr is a live vaccine (well, actually 3 vaccines). What do you reckon happens?
        The more people vaccinate, the more outbreaks happen.
        I can’t even begin to tell you how wrong your assumptions are.

        1. “Live” vaccines like MMR are attenuated or weakened to not cause disease, hence they don’t cause disease as that would defeat the purpose?

  2. I happen to fully agree about vaccination with MMR being overwhelmingly a good thing.
    A no brainer.
    I wonder at this new moral authoritarianism we are seeing though, it is rather revolting.
    Don’t the left like to get on their high horse and ban stuff!
    I think it turns out the actual antivax demographic are mostly inner city well to do labour type soccer moms.
    Ironic.

  3. SOME CHILDREN CAN REACT BADLY TO VACCINATIONS MY SISTER SAID HER SON WAS SO SICK SHE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA DIE SO PEOPLE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THIS

    1. Your caps look key appears to be stuck on Michelle.
      A small subset of people cant be vaccinated, very young or immune compromised for example, hence the importance of everyone else being vaccinated to protect them.
      Discuss with your doctor for your
      specifics.
      If you can’t be vaccinated, your only protection is everyone else..

      1. And now we have apparently lost that herd protection because of the large number of ‘free thinkers’ swallowing the conspiracy crap.

        I hope it was worth it…

  4. I am vaccinated and so is my family, because I am a scientist and I believe the benefits far outweigh the risks.
    Unfortunately many people can only go on what their government tells them to do.
    The problem with that is that most western government have a long and rich history of lying to their populace about many things including health issues and science.
    I’m not sure demonizing anti vaxers is entirely fair.

    1. Just for fun I made an OIA request to ACC asking how many claims had been accepted for vaccine injury since such records began.
      Since 2005 there have been 1376 successful claims.
      Now, when was the last time you ever saw a headline in MSM in NZ along the lines of…” Child left severely brain damaged by Vaccine!!!”?
      You’d think that just one of those 1376 would have come forward to explain why they would think twice about having another child vaccinated, wouldn’t you?

      1. Selective facts.
        Which vaccines were involved? How many inoculations have been given since 2005?
        How many people died of smallpox or contracted polio in that time?

      2. is there figures for the people not scared for life because they have been vaccinated . Nothing is without risk but all actions have to be balanced against the good or bad effect

  5. When Jacinda Ardern and David Clarke removed immunisation targets 18 months ago, they were both warned of the consequences of an outbreak.

    Ardern and Clark removed those immunisation targets amongst many targets in the public sector because they wanted to avoid metrics by which the Labour-led government could be measured by.

    Well, we have a measure now:

    How many children and vulnerable people have Jacinda and Clarke killed through their malfeasance and incompetence?

    THERE is your “perverse outcomes” Labour. Measured in dead children.

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