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  1. ” A key learning from this war is that …”

    That’s P.C. Plod the policeman testifying in court vocabulary. For the rest of us they’re lessons, not learnings.

  2. But if NATO forces in Afghanistan were so shit hot , how come they could never win , even after 20 years?

    1. “Winning” was never the objective. Afghanistan was only ever about providing a convenient battlefield within which weapons and troops could be battle tested and trained.

      1. It has struck me that the US seems to have a policy of always having a war going somewhere so that there is always a good number of troops that are accustomed to that environment.
        D J S

        1. Interesting thought and if you want a battle experienced military it does make sense.

  3. It’s worth considering that in 1939 the gremans took a month to subdue the polish forces even with their embryonic blitzkreg tactics, poland back then was roughly a similar size as ukraine today. Also there are other parallels in sizes, dispersal of forces, morale- and support from but muted military response of western nations. Ukraine seems to be winning the propaganda war thou and the slow (to modern eyes) russian advance could be a feint to draw out the ukraine millitary before a renewed push forward. It’s also compelling to ponder another possible parallel situation to poland in 1939. What if EU or nato forces themselves ‘invaded’ western Ukraine, you might end up with the exact reverse (east vs west) with the russians attacking during the ’39 polish campaign. If the ukrainian forces facing the EU surrendered on mass to nato, then there would be a cadre force (and on ukraine ground) to reconstitute a ‘free Ukraine’ of course thats a mad gamble for nato… as putin clearly still thinks of Ukraine as a vassal state of Russia- but in few weeks russian forces could be driving up to the border of poland, slovakia, hungary, romania, and eyeballing EU forces anyway and still with Ukrainian insurgents at his rear and forcing him to have a large garrison force almost permanantly in the Ukraine. Unless putin looses his nerve and having achieved ‘some’ goals retires to the negotiation table withdrawing to a now linked donbass region and crimea. But lets hope all comparisons to 1939 end there!

  4. I think the US is hoping that this war in Ukraine will bleed Russia to death.Slay the monster once and for all.
    Destroying Ukraine and inflicting further death on its innocent civilians is just unavoidable collateral.I very much think Zelensky is now safely in The US Embassy in Poland.Mainly to prevent him from coming to any ceasefire or peace agreement with the Russians .He’s got a gun at his head from both sides, the CIA and the far right armed militia on the other .Dmitry Yarosh, ex commander of Right Sector is now chief adviser to Ukraine’s defense ministry.

  5. Ben, it doesn’t seem like ‘shock and awe’ at all. Where are the aerial bombings of civilian areas ala Belgrade?

    This assertion and “the need for a quick victory” seems like a misreading of your foe’s tactics and war aims.

  6. The reports coming from Kiev of Russian troops shelling the humanitarian corridors in Mariupol does not make sense.Why do you think the Russians haven’t Groznyed or Raqqaed, or Tokyoed Mariupol? Because Mariupol is in the Donbas (basin of the Don river), where many ethnic Russians live.If they didnt care about those lives they’d go all in , like the US did in Raqqa , or Baghdad
    The Azov Battallion has its headquarters in this city , could they be preventing civilians from leaving , thus keeping them as hostages, knowing the Russians will be hampered by the presence of civilians

    1. yes agree . Tactics adopted from Syrian “moderates ” , and doesn’t that make them the equivalent of isis , hamas and all those other U.S foes who shelter amongst civilians? And actually doesn’t that apply to all Ukrainian forces sheltering amongst civilians?
      Us righteous folk in the west should condemn this outrageous cowardice.

  7. Ukraine isn’t a member of NATO hence no NATO. Besides NATO is a “defensive alliance” guaranteeing security for its members and their interests , yunno , like oil markets in Iraqi , heroin markets in afghanistan and slave markets in Libya . Yay NATO

  8. *Breaking*
    Daniel Faitaua of TVNZ just reported that the people of Ukraine are now drinking out of puddles, which is a perfect analogy for the West’s gutter journalism we are being forced to consume.

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