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  1. I thought the maxim was ‘do the crime, be prepared to do the time and don’t whine about NZ prison conditions, imagine being banged up in Bali or Brazil. Well, ok, I have just added a bit there.

    1. If you put prisoners into unsafe, brutal conditions, Rodders, what do you expect will happen? What will come out the other end? Socialised, rehabilitated people?

      Of brutalised, unrehabilitated, angry men with no motivation to re-join society?

      Let’s try a more sophisticated, comprehensive prison policy that doesn’t rely on childlike rhyming rhetoric.

      1. It is Their CHOICEas Rehabilitation programmes and educational opportunities are available in prison and it is their opportunity. Are first time prisoners prepared to leave prison with basic skills, enabling them to secure 40-hour a week employment and leave the life of crime behind.

        Or lean the lessons of the old timers who have spent so much time in prison on how to be a ‘successful’ criminal. Yeah Right!

        1. You just have to compare the results of our prisons to those in places like Denmark to see who is making sense in this debate

        2. stop talking through a hole in your bum Rodder. Have you been to prison I was visting Rimutaka Prison on Sunday and there isn’t enough courses for the prisoners there is a huge waiting lists the money hasn’t been invested in rehab only in locking more up some for trivial offences. Why do you think we have so much recidivism.
          Yes there are opportunities but not enough also if many NZers and their families can’t find somewhere to live how hard do you think it is more an ex- prisoner. The last government sold thousands of our state houses and land to their business mates.

          1. Actually I am using a keyboard.

            No I have not been to prison, I was to well bought up.

            However, having lived in Auckland for 30 years I have been burgled four times and had two cars stolen.

            So when I read the column above, I think to myself ‘why didn’t Arthur Taylor get a trade/career and work 40 hours a week like everyone else’. And ditto for those people who burgled my house and stole my cars (once from my driveway)… and possibly from you as well.

            Being burgled is not a nice feeling … but hey the thieves had tough lives … left school at 16 … blah blah blah

            Actually come to think of it, NZ’s richest man Graeme Hart left school at 15.

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