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  1. Hate speech laws seem to be more about controlling and criminalising what people say and stopping free speech than stopping hate speech.

    There are many instances of those on opposite sides who disagree and believe the other are hate speakers and criminals. AKA Zionist/Palestine.

    The best way to end hate speech is to talk and discuss it, not suppress and criminalise it.

    The trans movement seems to be full of death threats and harassment on both sides.

    Soon disagreeing with government policy will be a hate crime in NZ.

    Government is on the wrong track about hate speech and making it worse just like their ill informed woke/capitalist led housing reforms.

  2. A cracker of an article @ME. A kick in the nuts for the bloody USofA and a bit of sanity re the freedom of speech. I am an expert in neither but somehow I can’t see the Gestapo or NZ’s equivalent coming round to my house to frog march me to jail, or worse. Won’t happen.

  3. This kinda shows that democracy is an illusion…and what about the far-from-free (of moneyed and political interests) mainstream media that greatly shapes what we think, therefore say. Otherwise, free speech really should be just that, regardless of the far-from-free environment it tends to spring from.

  4. Has someone already called attention to your typo? Malcolm. I am sure it wasn’t meant to be a satirical put-down but Chris doesn’t consider himself Christ – he might laugh at being called a ‘very naughty boy’ though. His understandings of meanings are a broad church.

    But I feel I should remind Green Bus about the police raid on Tuhoe. That was a case oshowing the truth of the general wisdom to not eavesdrop on others as you are likely to hear things you don’t like. The police did eavesdrop and limited the free speech of Tuhoe. They said that there were other matters also, apart from the guns. But things soon get blown up in people’s minds even if there is no intention to do so in reality. And it’s a fine line as to what pre-emptive action should be taken. I think we shouldn’t be complacent.

  5. I think you are interpreting free what the MSM tells us as being free speech Malcolm. The lies the MSM constantly supply us with does not prevent the alternative media from speaking the truth. It just makes it harder to work out what the truth is.
    My impression at this stage is that the truth presented by the MSM varies inversely with the importance of the subject being discussed.
    D J S

    1. Oh c’mon, – Mrs Jones cat stuck up in a tree and needing recuing by the Fire Brigade is far more important. And now for the news on Ukraine.

  6. Much as I doubt the motives of the FSU (free speech union) and its ties to ACT and the TPU, they are doing good work across the political spectrum defending basic freedoms that woke millennials fail to comprehend.

    Free speech is one of the basic principles of democracy along with a free press, freedom of religion/conscience, and freedom of association. All of which are potentially threatening to the Establishment elites who hide in the shadows and want to continue their despicable acts of capitalist exploitation, war, propaganda and fraudulent financial practices that impoverish the working class.

    But all of that is treated like conspiracy theory by woke children with mediocre IQs, who are addicted to pornography and social media gossip, and their only aim in life is to become an influencer or pro gamer. They get their values from the worst humans on TikTok and Instagram while their parents are out working 2 or.3 jobs to pay the million dollar mortgage.

    What a sick little culture we have built.

  7. Although our working class and benefit class have long been portrayed as loud mouthed hate speakers, the reality is the opposite. The number of incidents we’ve had of criminal hate speech in this country is relatively low when you consider the array of different ethnic groups and sexual identities.

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