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  1. I was horrified by the anti protest stance that many took. I tried to find some evidence of the Anzac day protests that took place during the Vietnam war. My cursory search didn’t find any but I do remember them. They were disparaged by the RSA.

  2. Actually I had a mountaineering relative shot down over Germany…who landed in a tree( only he and one other survived from the Lancaster crew)…he spent the war in a prison of war camp for airmen and as the war was ending did the ‘Long March’ through Germany in freezing conditions. The airmen prisoner survivors were helped by their German guards to survive.

    He hated war. He hated warmongers! He never said a bad word against the Germans…He actually never went to any RSA meetings or ANZAC Days….He was on the side of PEACE . War is a failure of humanity. ANZAC Day should be a day which promotes Peace and regret of war. He would have been on the side of the peace protester

    It is important young people have opinions and can change them. It is important young people can vote because they are usually the canon fodder and pawns in war games created by politicians.

  3. Nope, I am for keeping the voting age at 18 years. I thought a lot about lowering it, but many aged 16 and 17 lack enough maturity and understanding of political issues and solutions.

    While that may also apply to some 18 year olds, generally 18 year olds are considered mature enough to do many things, so they should be allowed to vote.

    As for that 12 year old, he is the product of his parents, I presume his father’s indoctrination, hence those thinking like the father would praise the boy for his “courage” to speak as he did.

    Adults often love to praise the young ones – including kids that age – for whatever they do or say, that confirms their own views, biased or not. It says nothing about maturity and ability to make objective decisions and have objective views.

    1. whatever age you go into the army should be the age you have a vote…there are plenty of immature and fascist politicians around to send the young off to war

      btw my vote now goes to the Greens …and away from NZF…thanks to Winston NZF supporting the shrill 12 year old boy and his NZF warmongering “fascist’ dad

      …I thought Bill English handled the whole situation the best …he quoted a pacifist from last century who had been to war and said that people should have the right to protest on ANZAC Day ( credit where credit is due…but I wont vote Nact)

      ‘Bill English defends Anzac Day protests’

      http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/04/pm-defends-anzac-day-protests.html

      “What we’re remembering on Anzac Day is people who gave their lives for freedom and part of that freedom is the ability to protest.”

      He called the Wellington protest “minor” compared to previous years, and said he didn’t see any “misbehaving or disrespectful” behaviour.

      “As long as people are acting within the law, they’re allowed to express a point of view,” Mr English said.

      Mr English read a moving extract of The Silent Division by Ormond Edward Burton at the Wellington Anzac commemoration, describing the horrors of war.

      When questioned over choosing a poem often used for pacifist demonstration, he said he “hadn’t looked into the history of it” but thought it was important “people understand the realities of war”.

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