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  1. Cut the menu at Bellamy’s to Hospital Food Mondays, School Lunch Tuesday, Prison Food Wednesday, and so on.

    See who cracks first.

    1. Great idea, that would suit the “do unto others…” admonition so Luxon should be keen on the idea? I suspect the Tui billboard ad might apply since he has not shown the ability to care for anyone apart from his donors.

  2. Outrage olympics and suppression is hardly unique to some middle class supposedly left group. Look at the situation with Israel. There is lots of outrage and suppression of voices that are against Israels actions in Gaza. Don’t tell me that middle class woke.

    Stop trying label everything or put people in boxes . It’s tiresome.

    1. Wheel. “ Stop trying to label everything or put people in boxes.” Agree. It’s sloppy thinking, generalising, and counterproductive. Better to drop the term altogether and address people or issues on their own merits, or lack thereof.

      1. Yes, find a new word Bradbury to describe what cha wanna describe that wot you hate. ‘Woke’ ‘PC’ ….whatever ….you are tipping over the line with those right leaning expressions of derision or is it just your slip showing?

        1. Lots of people are politically homeless. They have lost their political homes. So much information is available now people are no longer grouped together on the same side of the political narratives served up by msm.

          People are confronted with more truth than ever before and more lies than ever before.

      2. I call it social engineering if it is something that I am not in favour of. I can handle people being different but when people are forced to accept changes they are not comfortable with there is a problem. When civilised free speech is called hate speech it is wrong, usually the judgmental religious types should be censored as what they say is mostly wrong according to scripture although sometimes they mix some good thoughts in with their bile.

  3. What a stupid meaning less word WOKE is .Why not just say what you mean ? If you think sushi is shit just say so dont use that stupid word stupid .Woke is becoming just like BRO or Fuck just a joining word or a word to use to get attention because you are talking shit again .

    1. Spot on Gordon.
      I can remember when I was woke. It was my dad telling me to get out of bed to hi milk the cows. He WOKE me up.

    2. Said every woke “progressive” ever.
      Cheers for putting your hand up GW.

  4. Woke – A word the right wing use to describe anything that doesn’t sit with the farmer meat head base.

    If the left had a catchy term for those who live for money, beer, rugby and 6 minute roots they should use it.
    I’ll still go with brain dead fucks or beta squad 6

  5. Sushi is so mainstream these days, you can get it in the provinces and most small towns as well as urban centres if you like the stuff. Bizarre for Atlas Dave to call Sushi woke. It would be interesting to hear from Sushi purveyors in Epsom what they think about their MPs little tanty.

    One of the contractors that produces school meals said on RNZ yesterday that one of his most popular snacks is carrot sticks and Hummus. Marmite sandwiches will not “cut” it after kids have experienced quality food.

  6. The argument that people should feed their own kids or not have them does not wash with me. So does this mean all farmers should look after their own cows (M Bovis cost us millions to fix and is ongoing) and who let the disease in that wiped out millions of dollars of kiwi fruit crop and who helped pay for this. And when cyclone Gabrielle hit, how many growers, farmers and homeowners got help using our taxes. And when the earthquake hit Christchurch how much did our government pay out to bail out homeowners with many being uninsured? To say people should look after their own kids is selfish and plain dumb given, we have an aging population and very low birth rates. And does this mean only the rich should have kids. To give money to millionaire landlords is not fair as rents are rising no matter what (due to being market driven) as is food and many other living costs. We pay taxes but are going to getting less with run-down health services and poorly serving social insurance ACC making cuts when they already aren’t delivering. As for this woke bullshit does that mean our politicians won’t be eating sushi or couscous and what about all their perks shall we get rid of them too while we are at it.

  7. Cut the menu at Bellamy’s let them eat luncheon sandwiches, cut all their perks they get like free Air NZ flights for them and their partners.

  8. Cut the menu at Bellamy’s let them eat luncheon sandwiches, cut all their perks they get like free Air NZ flights for them and their partners.

    1. Exactly, luncheon sandwiches on white–with no tomato sauce–would bring some of them back to earth. The entitled barely seem to realise they exist in a world of privilege and air conditioned spaces if Mr Luxury Luxon is anything to go by.

  9. Martyn correctly diagnoses the problem, but I disagree about the proposed solution. We really DON’T need a better definition of woke. That’s just a doomed cul-de-sac leading to even more draining culture wars. “Woke” as a term is already lost, tarnished beyond any usefulness. Abandon it with no sentimentality, just walk away.

    What progressives also need to do is stop _DOING_ wokeness, at least the toxic, performative, unauthentic version we’ve foolishly held us as “good politics for doing good” for the last 10 years.

    Instead….
    Big tent, build on common ground, non-violent, stop the snark, the name calling, the obsessive control over vocabulary, decisions made as close to the people most affected, socially responsible distribution of resources, and above all, build towards a government that governs as if the planet is finite !!!

    If this all sounds fanciful, it’s been done before. There was once a little band of outsiders who built a movement like this, in NZ, widely regarded at the world first in what has become a global political brand. Lead with grace, wisdom and poise by R Donald and J Fitzsimmons.

    I wonder…. whatever happened to it?

  10. and what bank account has Willis put all these billions of savings into .I have not seen any evidence of a single cent being banked by any department into any government account at west pac .No its just creative accounting and paper shuffling.The physical savings have never existed because the money has never been paid to anyone .
    Just more woke bull shit by a bull shit government

    1. Ha ha. I recall that there used to be lobster to waste around Kiwiland and people found it as common as anything and boring. Does anyone else remember whether that was true – back in the early colonial days that was.

      1. True. In Kaikoura ( meaning ‘crayfish food’ ) in the 1950’s and 60’s and probably beyond, the processing plant by the wharf chopped off the tails for export and the remaining bodies were available for free to all comers.

  11. Yeah nah, like it or not the word ‘woke’ perfectly describes an attitude and a set of actions which is why it has taken off the way it has. Might as well try to stop the tide coming in.

  12. Woke is about unchangeable parameters.
    Age, sex, colour, disability, ethnicity, sexual orientationThe wrong groups can only be sinners with no possibility of redemption.
    Wierd way to run a religion, how do you get converts!

  13. The reason why we are running out of electricity generation, is because the profit motive is embedded in our power system. Take the power motice out, we will have abundant generation. Genesis doesnt want to turn Huntly on because it eats into their profit margin.

  14. And the Tank with his right wing rant is back and no this is not a better outcome as the main players, the schools have indicated. Last time Seymour was a school teacher, nutritionist or principal was, well, never.

  15. The pig and chook might have something to say about your sandwich choice. The power supply problem is because the generators don’t do preventive maintenance (it would reduce profits) and it only the consumer who suffers in a power cut.

  16. It would be good to know what the savings are mostly generated from. I don’t think dumping more on teachers makes sense at all. Is it really all about ingredients? Seymour is an absolute tosser for not just getting on with it. No he has to act like a smarmy little bastard. He and Simeon Brown were separated at birth it would seem.

  17. As far as the word “woke” goes, I see it as a cop out term that has long since passed its use by date. It has an appeal among the lazy who failed English SC, because they use it to describe any behaviour they disagree with. It certainly has mutated to well beyond its original definition. Now we move to the realms of vocabulary. In order to better define what we mean by “woke”. to foil the RWNJ who misuse the term, I suggest we on the left, start by adding prefixes to the word. For example, anything to do with food can be relabeled “culinary woke”, and anything to do with gender – “gender woke”, and so on. Just because RWNJ misuse our definitions for the “sake of brevity”, doesn’t mean we have to follow suit. We can prove our superiority to them by being specific about our labels, simply by adding clarifying prefixes.

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