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  1. Thank you so much Jane for keeping this issue alive for us. I am convinced these silly bastards will push ahead with anything just to save face and to continue depleting the planet for the god of consumerism.

  2. Trump did kill the TPP. Long before the election. Hillary Clinton was an architect and an enthusiast, but she had to pretend a change of heart to counter Sanders. That left no one in the race supporting it once Trump got the nomination. Most of the other republicans and all of the other front runners would have gone ahead with it on their stated positions.
    What Trump has been saying , and doing is in diametric opposition to what nearly all commentators including Jane Kelsey here , are ascribing to him. Whether they be right wing neoliberal supporters or staunch opponents to neoliberalism.
    If he puts into place what he says , and he is getting on with it, it will be the first move against the philosophy for 35 years or more.
    Why don’t the advocates for a managed economy, distributing wealth among the whole community once more give him a chance, wait and see if he is for real, instead of joining the neoliberal chorus rubbishing everything he does? The economic left is being completely manipulated into destroying the first possibility of redress to the destructive economic policies of the last 40 years because they can’t stand the individual that is enacting it.
    D J S

    1. Why don’t the advocates for a managed economy, distributing wealth among the whole community once more give him a chance, wait and see if he is for real, instead of joining the neoliberal chorus rubbishing everything he does?

      Probably because Trump’s actions and words are sufficient to persuade Trump’s critics that he is a populist demagogue who demonises minorities; treats women apallingly; promotes ignorance in the face of climate change; is championing a new arms-race; and whose erratic behaviour antagonises countries from Mexico to China.

      That’ll do for starters.

      But instead of me repeating every word I’ve written, David, why not look at what his critics have been saying instead of labelling them “neo-liberal”. Not all his critics are “neo-liberal”, and mis-using that term is the 1950s version of McCarthyism where anyone vaguely “leftish” was automatically labelled a “communist” or “Soviet sympathiser”.

      Yes, Trump did climb on the anti-TPPA bandwagon, but that was long after hundreds of thousands throughout the world protested at the so-called “trade” agreement.

      When someone can provide evidence that Trump participated in one of the hundreds of anti-TPPA marches, or took part in some other action, then I’ll review my views of him.

      Until then, he is an opportunist who saw public disquiet on an issue and climbed on board (just as Clinton belatedly did).

      1. I wrote this reply in relation to defence matters in another forum and thought it has some relevance here so I’ll tweak it a bit and leave a copy here.

        The way the west is responding to crises is incorrect. What’s called the migrant crises is in fact a moral crises of the west, in fact we are living in a migrant crises. The migrant crises across America has almost eliminated the indigenous population and that’s generalised across the world. We have rich countries such as those members of 5is generating migrant refugees and poorer countries such as Lebanon adsorbing huge numbers of migrants. In the west, the response to absorbing even a tiny bit of this problem immediatly turns ugly in extreme ways and that’s also generalised across the world. So this is a moral crises.

        When the Saudi Government and later on The Clinton foundation backed ISIS militants first took Mosal that precipitated the huge decline in crude oil prices and generated fake prices which proceeded fake news that reverberated all the way to here to The Daily Blog.

        For the most part migrant refugees are fleeing from the crimes 5is is committing in the Middle East, this isn’t just true of migrants from the Middle East, it’s also true of Latin America and the pacific and Africa. Indigenous populations right across the globe are voting with there feet and the message is the price the west pays for minerals/chemicals/energy in the Middle East is unfair and 5is response is typical of any other state that conquers and subjugate. Obviously war has a point of diminishing returns that promote false prices which proceed fake news that we all talk about but refuse to acknowledge in a vein hope of protecting quality information.

        So those that mock Trump as an adoration of the American psyche need to read more and by read more I mean read less of social media platforms and other media organisations that refused to acknowledge systemic flaws in systems globally because Trump was right to point out China was pinching America factories with express permission from the oligarchy. But Trump is equally wrong in his response. That just means his underlying assumptions are incorrect.

        There are 2 assumptions of capitalism that are as equally false as fake news 1) economies move towards full employment 2) finance/credit and debt don’t exists in any mainstream economic text book. If you don’t believe me just ask any academic liberal charlatan what caused the 2008 American crises. So including employment data and banks in any calculation/formula is fundamental including here at The Daily Blog.

        1. Sam, “Trump was right to point out China was pinching America factories with express permission from the oligarchy”, was not China’s fault. China merely played the capitalists at their own game and won. If neo-liberalism and globalisation set out the rules where cheap labour is the name of the game, then can you blame Third World and developing nations from taking up the game?

          Far from being an opponant of the capitalist system, Trump has benefitted from it and made his millions by exploiting workers. (Eg, his hotel staff in Las Vegas.)

          China didn’t “pinch” anything. American Oligarchs put their factories in China. Case in point: Apple.

          All so US consumers could buy the latest goodies cheaply, and US workers be damned.

          That’s the truth of it.

  3. The EU is next to go down. If we stop dropping 1080, clean up our land, oceans and streams, stop pumping antibiotics/vaccinations into everything that moves, rebuild our forests so that the birds and bees can flourish, then we can truthfully claim to be clean, green and hopefully organic. After that we can sell anything, anywhere, any time. Oh…and we need to clean out the old past sell by date politicians. Utopia.

  4. The new economic paradigm -of no consumerism, not tourism, no ‘McMansions’, no industrially generated food etc. and everything being produced and consumed locally- will not be adopted voluntarily, but will be imposed on this insane society by nature. And it will be imposed by nature fairly soon (commencing around 2020).

    Until then, the culture of denial of reality will require continued attempts to prop up failing systems and failing institutions -including international trade- thereby making our collective predicament worse.

  5. Well if the worst come to the worst, Cuba seemed to survive with world class doctors and staff and one of the highest literacy rates.

    And NZ would probably never get to that.

    We have a paradise, but if NZ gets tied to tyrants under poor trade deals negotiated by our National government yokels, that take sovereignty away and seek to exploit our resources for magic beans, is not worth having.

  6. The MAI was crushed by popular global resistance, and now the TPPA has fallen, also due to popular global resistance. Global elites around the world are scratching their heads and asking themselves, “What the hell just happened?”

    They find it inconceivable that the people have beaten them.

    But they won’t give up. Bi-lateral agreements, that are even more dangerous and one sided for the side of big multinational corporations and the global elite, against the people and the planet, will now be the order of the day.

    “Putting America First” will mean that any bi-lateral trade deal between the US and any other country, will more resemble the sort of trade treaties imposed on conquered Suzerain nations by old time imperialist powers.

    Even the bi-lateral trade deals with aggressively ascendant big countries like China and Russia, who are challenging the US for dominination of world trade, will be little different.

    “Not to be confused with sovereignty”

    Suzerainty
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    Not to be confused with sovereignty.
    Suzerainty (/ˈsjuːzərənti/ or /ˈsjuːzərɛnti/) is a situation in which a powerful region or people controls the foreign policy and international relations of a tributary vassal state while allowing the subservient nation internal autonomy.[1] The dominant entity in the suzerainty relationship, or the more powerful entity itself, is called a suzerain. The term suzerainty was first used to refer to the relationship between the Ottoman Empire and its surrounding regions. It differs from sovereignty in that the tributary enjoys some (often limited) self-rule.
    A suzerain can also refer to a feudal lord, to whom vassals must pay tribute. Although the concept has existed in a number of historical empires, it is considered difficult to reconcile with 20th- or 21st-century concepts of international law, in which sovereignty either exists or does not. While a sovereign nation can agree by treaty to become a protectorate of a stronger power, modern international law does not recognize any way of making this relationship compulsory on the weaker power.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzerainty

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