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  1. Thanks Bomber I have always thought that people might change their mind when it sinks in that it costs $100,000 a year to keep some one in prison. But no. We are a foolish nation who have over the years – with the help of various governments – become extremely vindictive!

    Most of the prisoners could and should be out in the community doing useful things.

  2. Wowser!

    But you’ve got to admit much of that was brought on by elements of the copy cat neo con National party. What others call RWNJ’s( Right wing nut jobs ) . 1.3 billion. Think of that next time you think of Steven Joyce.

    Its amazing how thick ( or negligent ) they are actually were to neither provide services for writing letters for bail application or rehabilitation programmes .

    That is just amazing.

    That was, … the caliber of leadership under which we as a nation lived and suffered for 9 years,… almost a decade of our lives. Corrupt, ignorant, self serving and arrogant.

    Amazing.

    Truly amazing.

  3. Tell us again why we’re waiting for kids to be cooped up in prison so we can help them learn at least one or two of the Three Rs?

    Why it is that many ‘kids in poverty’ no books at home, etc etc etc manage to absorb, however poorly, those basics and go on to get paid work without ariving via the crim path? Become decent and solid parents, too.

    And don’t bang on about ‘race’ because all you’re doing is insulting the many Maori and other Polynesians who get along just fine being bilingual or better, and holding down jobs, and being well-educated without feeling any cultural pull to being a ratbag.

    Succeeding in the ‘mainstream’ is no indicator at all of ‘being Uncle Tom’. More a capacity and flexibility to sustain a personal/ethnic culture and fit in where it makes economic sense to do so. It never has to be a win-lose situation. Ask any minority group.

    Could we also know how many recent refugees from seriously awful and life-threatening circumstances, even (gasp!) conquest and colonisation, end up in clink in this country?

    Instead of building relentless highways perhaps and just maybe we could revise and restart the health services and school support services. Train enough people so we don’t have to rob other countries. Improve access and delivery. (Most of it is so nineteenth century – including the attitudes.)

    It certainly won’t help those who have been steeped in the ‘other culture’ of anti-social action. They’ll either come to wake-up on their own or die before.

    It’s the others; weak yet willing. They’d be decent enough in the right environment. Catch them early – and buffer the rest of us against the toxic remnant.

    Ahead of any “outrage” – that tiny toxic social segment is colour-blind. They’re a natural part of the ways humans are – regardless of any narratives to the contrary. You’ll find them in every population and group of people. Dangerous and self-serving.

    BTW that “outrage” is a waste of energy. It over-simplifies and distorts the information. It creates defensiveness instead of exploration. Be great if it died from neglect. There are better things to do to help the changes we need.

    1. 70% of prisoners are illiterate, 84% were unemployed at the time of the crime and Do you know how many prisoners inside also have head injuries and how many have mental health issues Andrea?

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