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  1. Brilliant! Invite somebody like Taika Waititi to spend a week at Waikeria Prison, the amazing film that would come out of that experience will have a profoundly positive effect towards a better way. I’d pay to see that movie.

    1. John Campbell’s to quick for you bro. He’s already in the youth justice system having a good nohe.

  2. There’s a hell of a difference between people’s attitude to unprovoked violent crime, especially against women, and non violent offences against inanimate objects. To mix them up into the same issue is not constructive to improving attitudes. No one who thinks that someone who has shot a storekeeper or raped and murdered a teenage girl should be put out of society so that they do not repeat the adventure, is going to change their mind by reading this article.
    Private prisons is another matter altogether, and combining that issue with the issue of public safety , seeking to align a belief in incarceration to protect the vulnerable in society with support for private prisons does not impress me.
    D J S

    1. Well, Z, the basis of justice is innocent-until-proven-guilty. If a case doesn’t prove guilt, then the presumption of innocence must stand.

      Otherwise we’re all guilty of something. It just remains to be found what that guilt is.

  3. Could we change the system enough so that people aren’t waiting for months for their case to be heard?

    By the time it’s before a judge of any kind memories have been modified, it’s becoming a bit of a blur. Can we just move on now?

    Plus the diminishing of legal aid and the very high cost of representation – is that ‘justice’? Or something quite venal?

    Time for a shake-up, even if National bleats about ‘another enquiry’. Too many people are missing out on an honest deal, and too many who are chronically dismissive of social ways are clogging the system.

    Those in and of the culture of thievery and violence have their own ways of dealing with defaulters. It’s when that culture collides with the ‘mainstream’ that the waves threaten the stopbank between and we invoke the deterrents of ‘our’ culture. Prisons and rehab and other strange treatments.

    It’s not as simple as it looks. Distant lost lambs can look quite different close up…

  4. An excellent article that covers ALL aspects of our fundamentally flawed Criminal [In]justice System that appears lost on Mr Stone. ​Andrew Little, Kelvin Davis and others in the current administration recognise the flaws in the system but are also aware of the potential backlash from ignorant kiwis indoctrinated by too many years of the KEY Mob. Those who still believe that the “basis of justice is innocent-until-proven-guilty” need an urgent wake up call. The system is actually based on the “guilty until acquitted” principle while the police and crown lawyers operate a system predicated on the “never let truth get in the way of a conviction” principle. Most defense lawyers – esp those working on legal aid – are equally guilty because a ‘found guilty’ client is worth megabucks so they have little incentive to strive for an acquittal. Bill English acknowledged that “Prisons are a Fiscal and Moral Failure” but was forced to allocated billions of taxpayer funds to this failed system because bigots like Key, Collins and Adams sat around same Cabinet table. (See: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1612/S00145/prisons-what-did-bill-english-really-mean.htm for further enlightenment.

  5. Some violent offenders come from a privileged background, not a deprived one at all. Often violence against women is derived from a sense of entitlement .
    D J S

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