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  1. I’m with you all the way in your critique of ‘capitalism’* and its disastrous consequences for life on Earth, Mike.

    You correctly identify that the system is unsustainable and that it is being used to enrich the 1% at the top of the financial-economic pyramid at the expense of everyone else. And the environmental predicament is being made worse by the day as a consequence of the poor choices made by governments worldwide, including that of NZ.

    Hot off the press today is yet another indictment of ‘our lifestyle’, supposedly chosen by us but in fact subtly foisted on us by governments that work as agents for corporations and set the rules that have led to climate chaos, and will lead to extinction of our (and most other) species.

    ‘How SUVs conquered the world – at the expense of its climate
    Exclusive new emissions analysis shows how much more dangerous for the climate SUVs are than smaller vehicles, and how embedded they have become in our lives’

    ‘SUVs were the second largest contributor to the increase in global carbon emissions from 2010 to 2018’

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/01/suv-conquered-america-climate-change-emissions

    Where I strongly disagree is when you declare: ‘Rescuing the company [Air NZ] is necessary’.

    Why?

    We are headed for a world in which oil will not be available, so we won’t have fuel to run planes. And in the short time that we DO still have petroleum-based fuels, every second that we continue to keep planes flying reduces the timeframe for complete planetary meltdown. None of this ( Peak Oil and Abrupt Climate Change) is news and has been well documented for at least 20 years!

    I also disagree with this, Mike: ‘Unemployment will reach 8-10 percent later this year’.

    I would not like to predict the unemployment rate once the impending global financial meltdown occurs but suggest you that you can double or triple your prediction, if not at the end of this year (all the Christmas hype will perhaps prop up the economy in the short term) then certainly by this time next year.

    Whilst I concede that a government led by Jacinda Adern would be the best of a very bad lot on offer, and any other party or combination of parties would be more-or-less instantly disastrous, I put it to you that Jacinda will not take the simple necessary steps to protect the children of NZ from the [future] catastrophic effects of Planetary Meltdown, but will continue to appease the sense of entitlement of consumeristic adults and will continue to promote the short term interests of corporations and banks.

    Daily CO2
    Aug. 31, 2020: 411.44 ppm

    Aug. 31, 2019: 409.25 ppm

    * In most cases there is no capital, and what is described as capital is actually debt,

    1. If Air NZ is to receive any support from govt then there has to be a plan for an ongoing reduction of flights and those wishing to fly overseas for holidays be charged a heavy penalty for unnecessarily conspiring to stuff up the planet.
      You fly – they die sums it
      https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/apr/06/aviation-q-and-a

      SUVs and many other vehicles are used unnecessarily.

      The design of communities with workplaces close to homes and food crops is so simple but deliberately overlooked.
      Govt has to take a major part in implementing energy use reduction for several reasons including pollution reduction.

  2. Few could argue with your conclusions Mike. The thing is, how do we achieve the needed changes.

    Some of us online commenters, like you, actually do political work in the real world too!

    Neo liberalism in all its forms will only be rolled back by working class involvement, and direct action, when it comes down to it.

    Labour, somewhat ironically, need to be re-elected to create the space for their beloved ideology to be finally trashed! A Nat/ACT Govt would just exacerbate division and conspiracy madness, whereas a Lab/Green Govt would be a more positive environment for the needed class unity.

    Concrete demands such as widespread nationalisation could be supported by worker strikes and bans, and community support campaigns. Restoring power generation and supply to full public ownership would be a good start. And as you say Mike, giving communities the power and funding to restore and run their localities.

  3. The government needs a national plan for a new equitable and sustainable economy that shifts from the production of commodities for profit to delivery of services that meet peoples needs.

    Yes. Just getting people to fully comprehend that, is one of the first steps. The Old Order are reluctant to accept the new reality, that ‘the way things were’ is no longer the way things are, and that key components of their once-was paradigm have changed forever.

  4. we don’t need a fucking “green new deal” “new normal” or any other scam that comes from the current system. What is a green new fucking deal anyway ? I know what it is not and that is the answer to the current situation. To let the groups /organisations who have presided over a system that has every country in debt and both the planet & humanity’s wellbeing in crisis. To have the major decisions & values of the planet driven by the swamp that is American politics has perverted and prevented so many people and things reaching any where near potential is lunacy. The coup de grace, dereliction of duty and betrayal of citizens is the blatant failure of media and govts , even supposed opposing ideologies / countries to challenge this model. This situation has rapidly deteriorated with the USA elections showcasing how unbound they have become from truth and reality. They and the unindicted co-conspirators in europe have demonstrated how willing they are to sacrifice justice, credibility and literally millions of lives to give an appearance of legitimacy to decades of abuse of power. AOC is a creature of the swamp like vile liar and drone killer barry soetero – look at biden/harris how dare they pretend they are going to lead anything let alone the free world ! I heard biden say “shovel ready projects” the other day – co-incidence ? i think not !!You can not make a deal with a liar and these people are not going to walk away. so all you Conspiracy Deniers stop putting me and my nanna at risk. Corbett Report.com

  5. rubbish ! last thing we need is anything coming from the unhinged american politiical system for God’s sake. America’s overt and covert tentacles have prevented and perverted human aspiration and endeavour for decades. to think that they and their european co-conspirators are willing or able to produce anything but exploitation and division is witless. You can not make a deal with a liar – new, green or shovel ready !
    Even more witless is to think they going to keep you safe

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