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  1. Oh c’mon Liz,… if we look at the Spanish influenza, which killed more than the Black Death in the 14th century,…( 500,000,000 infections and around 120,000,000 deaths,) we see that the H1N1 virus did actually acquire other RNA amino acids and ‘morphed’, as it were into a far more less deadly and virulent form. In fact, it became the precursor to the flu pandemics of 1958-9 , 1967-68 , 1970, and the 2009 avian and swine flues,…in other words, the Spanish flu did not leave us but became an ‘ancestor ‘ to todays influenza.

    The Spanish flu started off as a mild variant in the autumn if 1918, its lethality and virulence low,… but by the spring of 1918, had ‘morphed’ into a deadly and most virulent form. It persisted in that way until 1920, with sporadic outbreaks throughout the 1920s, but for all intents and purposes ‘faded away’ during that decade. Without the aid of viral vaccines which were only cutting edge science at that time.

    And the point is this: that all of these viral outbreaks follow a parabolic curve whereby there is usually an incremental increase in virulence nd mortality, followed by a steady decrease in virulence and mortality as the virus takes on other similar viral RNA and becomes, in effect,… ‘watered down’. And this is even despite the intervention of modern vaccines.

    NOW,… in tandem with ‘elimination’ and starving the virus of ‘victims’,…and an extensive vaccine program,…we start to see the results of a slow but steady disinclination of the viruses most lethal form and also of its virulence.

    Covid 19 and its delta variant is in no way shape or form even comparable to Spanish influenza in its lethality but DOES have similarity’s to its viral load and infectiousness. BOTH have viral loads a thousand times stronger than its original form however Covid is far, far less deadly.

    Reconstruction of the extinct Spanish flu virus H1N1, in 1997 or thereabouts in an American military biological lab, by reconstructing plasmids to reorganize the original RNA sequence, demonstrated that the Spanish flu virus was not only incredibly virulent, but that it destroyed mice’s lung tissue rapidly, mimicking the same effects seen in humans in that time period.

    The tissue samples were of two deceased servicemen of that era who died from the Spanish flu and also from lung tissue that was obtained from the mass graves of the Inuit settlement of Brevick, Alaska in which 72 out of 80 adults died from Spanish influenza.

    the Discovery and Reconstruction of the 1918 Pandemic Virushttps://www.cdc.gov › flu › pandemic-resources › reco…

    I am trying to say there is hope, not despair. I do hope people draw strength from what I am relaying to you. C’mon people, we can overrule this thing!

  2. Right Wingers and real men who are proud to be men ,,,could accuse you of being Woke and precious Dr Liz ,,,,

    Common sense tells them a good dose of “harden the fuck up pills” is all that’s required to make this country great again.

    Examples of freedom fighters pushing back against Jacindas anti-business Covid Marxisim are starting to appear for them ,,,,

    ,,”as the Westland mayor who recently demanded that we listen to business leaders instead of health experts. And also ‘learn to live with it’,”…..

    … Because in the good old days ,,,, before female Prime Ministers and stuff made us soft ,,, we could live with Polio.

    and no one cared for the current woke bullshit about drinking either … https://youtu.be/Kaq0Ym6OY_k

    😉 🙂 😉

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    On a more serious note ,,,, NZ has grounds to call for this politicians sacking too ,,,, poisoning their public health and threatening ours ,,,,like neo-lib righties always do ,,,, https://youtu.be/ExkfAlICSVE

    1. Really, reason? ”Real men” is a bit 1950s, isn’t it? And proud to be men? I think that’s good, as long as it doesn’t include a lot of very boring old views about women, gays, people of colour, Springbok tours and so on. There is definitely a history of masculinism in NZ (which Jock Phillips wrote about at length) that does not bear scrutiny. Slogans won’t do – you need to say what it is to be a good man today.
      Martyn and Chris go on about wokeness and I never really know what it means, but the people and views they describe aren’t mine, so I can’t be woke. I was also OK Karen’d in last week’s blog. I am just a blogger with views, and I try really hard not to be abusive to anyone. And I try to write analysis, not moaning complaints (I believe the key characteristics of the so-called karens is their tendency to complain).
      I suppose you can’t please all of the people all of the time. Some weeks my blogs don’t even please me, but I do the best I can!

      1. Sorry Liz ,,,,, I’m often the only one to get my own joke’s ,,,, And my joke was on the term woke ,,, which I think is the new word for PC / politically correct.

        I was poking fun at the “proud to be a man” lot ,,,, aka John Key

        ,,, and on the Westland Mayor who probably grew up drunk and associates calipers with happy times / memories ,,,

        Real men don’t learn to live with Polio ,,,

        and Only right wingers seem stupid enough to ask business men for health advice.

        Your articles are well written and generally broaden my view on whatever your subject is.

        I on the other hand may give up attempting jokes in my writing ,,,, as a common result is people getting really mad at me….

        …. The problem is I find this funny 🙂

  3. As “Dr” Liz points out, “With my zero knowledge of epidemiology…”

    Thanks doc. Laters 🙂

      1. Bert- Me too. Pretty straight, honest and not sensation seeking. Does her research and makes you think, unlike some others who thrive on conflict, drama and stirring up controversy.

  4. Thanks Dr Liz, a wonderful very enlightening read. Who would of thought ‘germ warfare’ in the 1750’s, Colonial powers were/are a devious lot!

  5. Unfortunately the Chino’s are not cooperating, and they were reluctant to announce the problem when it was first identified. In fact they tried to hide it and started buying and importing PPE gear from other countries, along with trying to pervert the WHO ?

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