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  1. Wow! Awesome Liz. I hope it goes a little better fo her now. Thats a lot to cope with under very difficult conditions. I think you did right to at least try

    1. When I read the first story while not being in this lady’s exact position we spent many years only a step away – we got through and grandchildren through to reasonable independence but how easily it could have all gone wrong. The times were easier then especially with our own children and all of them, bar one, were helpful and supportive and still are. If ever the saying “there but for the grace of . . .” applied it is in this case and the many others out there struggling to make sense of life. All they ever would have wanted was for the “children” to be happy, that looks to be quite a hard task for many especially those working so hard to pick up the pieces.

      1. Liz – you did right, good on you. No-one who hasn’t been through the huge upheavals of family trials can begin to understand the dynamics here – especially a non-maternal male who has adopted the word ‘horror’ into his nom de guerre.

        This poor lady appears to need peace, and I hope that it comes to her in a good shape.

  2. Thank you Liz for this and it was a relief to see you had the same response, and also that you attempted to take direct action – for which you have my thanks and admiration. I was not in a position to do that but did email a prominent person in the injustice space (with a history of effective direct intervention), drawing the story to their attention. For what it’s worth, excerpts of my email include:

    “As you read the circumstances and the pressure she was under, and intuitively her mental state and the life of burden and giving to others, there is surely an argument that she was mentally disturbed. And yet she is pleading guilty to charge of murder, which I can understand from her perspective, she sounds like a good person who snapped, and as a good person, she now wishes to absorb and live through every ounce of guilt available.

    By the sounds of it that’s all we need as a system, we don’t need to ensure that that is correct, cf manslaughter or not guilty by reason of insanity etc. There will be no trial and she will just be sentenced to life imprisonment, I surmise.

    The problem I have is that as a matter of public policy and morality, I feel this is both remarkable in 2019, and profoundly wrong.

    Teina Pora spent 20 years in jail for a crime he had zero to do with because he made a false confession, borne of low IQ and foetal alcohol damage. Is our justice system really satisfied that any conviction will do, that it’s irrelevant whether the real perpetrator is actually running free, or the perpetrator has been correctly charged/treated?

    Is that all we really are as a society? Please put me right here. Please tell me I’m misinformed or it’s poor reporting, and that there is no chance that this lady is being allowed to plead guilty to murder without the system having strenuously satisfied itself that that is the appropriate outcome, and only one that would occur had she pleaded not guilty and gone to trial with appropriate representation”

    Clearly Liz you felt the risk was/is as it appears. I don’t believe it suffices to leave one’s prospects to the chance of sentencing (as it now appears is the way this is managed). I hope thanks to the efforts of you, her family, the reporter and others, that compassion is applied by the system in her sentencing, hitherto denied her in her life by the system.

    Thank you again for your humanity and your efforts.

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