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  1. If this govt were vulnerable to public sentiment in my opinion they would not be looking to ratify the CP_TPP. Fact is I see little to suggest they are serious about changing the status quo. Just look at the budget. Could easily have come from National.

    1. 9 years of the National government shows this 1st budget of the Labour led coalition is not like National at all.

  2. I think a big part of our problem are the socio economic factors, and the lack of intelligence, lack of skills and the lack of education of our prison population. The only way they can survive in the modern world is by doing crime for a job.

    Many of these people have quite severe mental health issues as well, if they didn’t have these mental health issues, I doubt they would be staying in Her Majesty’s Hotels up and down the country.

    We need to invest time and effort into these people to make them productive members of society, otherwise lock them all up at a cost of $100k per person per annum, which this country can not afford.

    We need to have a look at the Netherlands and Portugal with regards to their drug problems and take a leaf out of their books. People are the same the world over, if it works in Portugal and the Netherlands it will work here in New Zealand.

    1. Agree with you Jack but would like to add there are some of our people
      (Maori) in jail that shouldn’t there. I have seen first hand by attending court the racism, unconscious bias and very controlling old fashion attitude of some of our judges and JPs. If we want to truly reduce prison numbers we need to look at the entire justice system and how racist and discriminative it really is and to do this we need to start at the very top.

  3. What hard evidence does gordon have that her charity makes any lasting difference?

  4. Pillars all fall over when there’s no balance. That’s the thing about pillars. And there’s no balance in a society with only one-way law for landlords and employers. Your substitute “pillars” will therefore be futile in this context.

  5. The prison industry , with corporate, multi national owners, are symptomatic of the privatisation of more and more government responsibilities. E. G housing, roading, ITO’s, immigration corporates, Sky TV (they sold our public share), electricity, etc. The corporate prison industry needs prisoners to profit. Hopefully the new government will reverse the disastrous path we’re on.

  6. yes agree with you Phi and also privatisation= no government responsibility = no blame = no effective solution

  7. Private investors are looking for 10-15% return on capital so this is money which does not go into the welfare or rehabilitation of prisoners.

    Private investment in key Public Services should not be allowed as it does not make sense ?

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