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  1. “For the record, I don’t think Biden or Harris can win over Trump voters”

    Debating the progressive merits of Biden and Harris is pretty pointless. They are only there because they are who the Democrat establishment wants to run against Trump, not because they can beat Trump but because they represent corporate interests. If push comes to shove, the establishment will put up with Elizabeth Warren.

    The real representatives of the progressive left are Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. They will most likely be undermined by the Democratic establishment but they, at least, represent the progressive voice.

  2. Nicely said Esoteric.
    Now… Bomber your woke radar is set to over sensitive. This was a primary political tactic by Harris that was not meant for general election consumption. The aim here is to remove Biden from the race not Trump. Like Bill Clinton, Biden is right now the default “black” candidate of choice for African Americans, (He was Obama’s guy right). Harris effectively hit Biden on race deliberately to negate this perception of Biden, and the post debate polls show support for Biden falling noticeably across all demographics.
    Biden must be removed now or else there will be another coronation of a middle of the road democrat that could get beaten again. Then we can talk of who is best to beat Trump, or even just as important who will be the next FDR the USA desperately needs.

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