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  1. If you think that white males who do not routinely wear cardigans or who feel compelled to apologise for things they have not done will be voting for any govt that includes the Greens and TPM you dreaming – Marama Davidson made it clear how she feels about us so f**k the lot of ya.

    1. You need to meet more white tradie males. I have friends who share my political views, and while we don’t think much of the social engineering that the Greens are known for, all parties have some divergent thinkers. Our contempt for the current government means that the Greens & TMP are still a better option. As a male who respects females, does not think of them as sex objects & is capable of agreeing to disagree, I have never been in any situation where false or true accusations of improper conduct could be leveled against me, so while I don’t agree with lots of things that people do, I am secure in my identity and do not feel threatened by whatever weird trend is happening.

      1. I am a project manager working with tradie’s every day so we can strike that one out and as a dad to 4 girls / married to a great woman we can strike any issues around respect for females as well.

        1. Well mate, I’ve run many projects myself, worked on some of the biggest construction jobs in the southern hemisphere as a boilermaker welder.. Ran painting crews in NZ, and played my guitar for a living after that in Australia, and Europe, and I consider your comment, to be shallow, reactionary, and hint of an innate bigotry…
          Being the boss doesn’t automatically give your opinions(bigotries) weight beyond the air you expel to utter them…
          You are obviously in the camp that would rather see this country decimated societally and economically than have to drop the prejudices that underpin your political “beliefs”
          You, and your ilk are actually part of the problem… and you, and your ilk will always be the last to realise that…

  2. I might be wrong but it seems to me the majority of people who comment here (apart from the trolls) are disillusioned with the “left” because it is essentially a slightly less malevolent version of the far right coalition we have in power now.
    Why does this never get addressed? Until Labour renounce neoliberalism many people will never vote for them regardless of their woke stupid shit.

    1. Disappointed and disillusioned, Rangi. If they were holding to Labour principles there’d be plenty of men wanting to join them.
      Greed and snobbery have a lot to do with it as well and imagining that they are in a ‘class’ other than working or middle class. That elite class doesn’t actually like them or feel they should be included, but they are useful, they swell the numbers and make the right look much more impressive than it is.
      Young men with plenty of money tend to think they have that money because they know everything. Like you know who!

  3. If you think that white males who do not routinely wear cardigans or who feel compelled to apologise for things they have not done will be voting for any govt that includes the Greens and TPM you dreaming – Marama Davidson made it clear how she feels about us so f**k the lot of ya.

  4. From experiential observations abd learnings , those right-wing males…they are definitely not men…are like dealing with babies.

  5. ‘Insisting that men with penises are women just because they put on a dress.” Really Zelda! I am shocked!

    You always said that was our special secret and now you tell everyone!

  6. No chance, between hating on self employed trades and that stupidly long Auckland lock down I rather not vote.

  7. I used to vote green, and voted Labour. Now i could dare support the woke rightness of the left. Winston for me.

  8. Yeah nah – the Right are far too stupid to affect my voting behaviour. The self-styled progressives alienated me singlehanded.

  9. People who support Trump either don’t have two brain cells to rub together ( yes that includes the supposed god bothers) or worse are rich and just don’t give a f**k about anyone at all. You can be conservative/right and think he is f’ing idiot and you’d be correct. All this label bullshit is tiresome. Its up there with generation this and generation that. It’s all so repulsively American. Large parts of the world probably don’t go about compartmenting the population (ok it’s probably about class instead) based on when they were born.

  10. Let’s face it the people who voted for this cowpat of a government were manipulated and still repeat the bullshit messages that National in particular campaigned on. They keep banging on about inheriting a mess. So the answer is what? Make it so much worse but throw in race baiting crap (that was the opposite of the previous National government). Wake up.

    Of course the non right, because you can’t call Labour left, got duped too. The difference being the Labour terms were not built on selling out for the 1%. Call them whatever they weren’t openly bought and paid for like this lot.

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