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  1. Goodness me. Are we men that fragile? Yes, many of us are and thank you Martyn for reaching out to us.
    How do you convince the individualistic, self reliant, ‘I don’t need any help’ Kiwi bloke that solidarity and compassion are relevant? That solidarity works.

    1. Solidarity works if it has a spirit of reciprocity. Give and take on both sides. So far very little give or take from the Greens or TPM. Solidarity works if there is a common goal and equality of opportunity plus outcome. Greens showing any opportunity to CIS white males? TPM showing any opportunity for colonists? All they chant is white men evil.

      You could argue that each party has a very narrowly focused identity in their political outcomes. Not suited to encompassing the interests off and showing compassion to, men (especially white) of New Zealand.

  2. What comes first, left leaning political parties (Greens and TMP looking at you) embracing men (especially CIS white men) and providing policies that these men can relate to. Or men embracing left leaning parties in the hope that the left will soften (and indeed change) the rhetoric off all men being being violent, racist and colonists (or shades thereof).

    I suggest the left parties need to show that MLM (men’s life’s matter) before you will see any flow leftwards from men voters.

    I just cant see either party changing to attract the men’s vote in any significant manner.

  3. When the greens focus on the hard questions about the environment rather than LGBT issues (where the whole spectrum is only 4.7% of the NZ population according to Stats NZ), men will be look at them. Until then, you can probably forget it. Look at the Green men. There’s no one your average bloke would have anything in common with and the party is run by two women with a lot to say and far too often not relevant to most men.

    1. Agree. The Greens need to bring their real men forward and show the electorate that they exist.
      They are standing for green issues which might be able to mitigate the future climate disaster.
      They are hard-working ministers and usually have their heads down doing stuff. Not just trying to attract attention. They are blokey blokes.

      The two women leaders do ‘have a lot to say’ but they are the leaders, aren’t they? Other leaders have a lot to say too, especially the ACT leader who is a real show-off and childish attention seeker.

      As with TPM. Any little misdemeanor is jumped on whereas the really bad things that get done in parliament like passing laws under urgency when no urgency exists, penalising people for no reason other than their sex, various other selfish, blatantly corrupt dirty tricks, childish or grumpy-old-man stunts, go unpunished.

      When you like someone their foibles are covered up, boys will be boys. When you don’t like someone, you take offense very easily and want those people chastised. This is very evident in parliament, usually with the tacit approval of the speaker.

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