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  1. Well what can you say Martyn. The reality is there are loads of stupid people in this country. That’s the more generous interpretation of course. The other is there are a load of cross burning incels that call you an apologist for a useless Labour Government that couldn’t explain anything. Don’t forget that at one point most of the councils were in agreement the status quo would not work. Yet here we are with f’wits in the current coalition telling people to use unknown names for government ministries. That will get things sorted. What a bunch of muppets.

  2. All sooooo true..

    Impossible to argue against any of it…

    You could however add how mind numbingly dumb 1ZB and their pied piper Mike Hosking are and how mind numbingly dumb their devoted listener base are.

    These people parrot stuff they have no deep knowledge about as if it is actual fact, and they hate, pathologically hate, being challenged on it.

    N.Z. is a basic small minded brain dead country full of corporate boguns, druggies , down and outers, and people coming here who see it as an easy place to rort and get free health care and a free pension.

    The people who loved this country, and what it stood for, are still around, but now make up only a small portion of the population.

    With the average house price now nudging 1 million dollars, you can safely say, that we are beyond fucked..

    This is now a country for generationally rich Kiwi families , rich immigrants, and their spoilt over indulged rich children.

  3. Is the next stage going to be a change to the laws regarding the supply of water? National have history with their definition change of swimmable rivers some time ago. I suspect that pure water will be something you need to pay extra for as community supplies get relaxed standards as a cost saving measure.

  4. What is needed now is a rates strike. Pay the rates you paid last year and not a dollar more. If your city has 80 year old or 100 year old water pipes then your elected council has been negligent, your town clerk has been negligent and central government has been negligent in its audit process.
    I was against 3 waters because it stole from local people a resource/ infrastructure that they had paid for. It took away local democratic control of that most vital of infrastructure. And it laid the foundation for the privatization of that key resource.
    It was another plank in the Adern government plan to centralize power. Make no mistake they did aim to be transformational but not in a way we hoped. They were not concerned with lifting people out of the trap of poverty and creating a more fair and equal society.
    The transformation the Adern government wanted was the centralization of power ,authority and decision making and the destruction of local and regional democratic processes.

    1. You do realise that this is a Nat/ACT/NZF government, right? They’ll make damn sure your water gets turned off.

    2. But centralised under who Peter? The central government that you can vote in or out. At one point they were proposing the draft legislation include a super majority of greater than 75% to sell anything. Local government ownership doesn’t prevent privatisation either does it? I certainly don’t want Watercare in Auckland sold, or a stake sold, but that doesn’t mean it can’t happen.

      Wont other parts of the country have to amalgamate as they simply don’t have the means to do what needs to be done, or is the central government going to have to run around guaranteeing loans. That has its own implications.

  5. You vote right you get what you fucking deserve, increases everywhere.

    National did it.

  6. If Labour has explained their policy better it may have hot more traction. The policy was fronted by an angry Maori and any discussion was met with angry racist comments .The policy had merit but for a government lauding openness it was anything but.

    1. It was explained very clearly..
      I can’t see how people could not get it!

      However, if people willfully choose to misenterpret information to suit the needs of their own greed, or they are plain straight out uneducated, ignorant, or deluded, then more fool them!!

      How does that old saying go..’Be careful what you wish for’…

    2. “Fronted by an angry Maori”. What are you on Trevor? I don’t think anger is something that Mahuta projected at all. Unprepared, uncertain, maybe but angry?

  7. Meh, the prices would have gone up regardless – if not directly then indirectly. The only reason this extra $1,000 is being charged, is because it costs that much more to produce. Indeed, the only thing 3 Waters argues about (for or against) is how water is financed.

    1. 3 waters was dead as soon as National won the election. Anything after that is on the new Government’s head, including massive increases in all infrastructure.

    2. No we wanted to go earlier and put rate hikes on a lower track. Of course it was going to go up we needed the time to get immigration and foreign investment in behind rate hikes to balance the fucken budget. But nooooo, we have to go faster and higher with sharp rate hikes. Wonderful. Amazing Nutrium. Well done.

      1. Lowering the time for rates to go up, would have just incurred more interest costs since it would have meant higher Council/govt budget deficits. If the plan is to never pay down debt (i.e. the idea that debt is somehow free), it would resulted in higher inflation. The pound of flesh is always paid for – like I said, directly or indirectly. Personally I prefer the transparency.

        1. Robertson never got into all the little tricks he had to do to get wage inflation above inflation did he. It’s to hard explaining GDP to a bunch of conspiracy theory nut jobs getting there rocks off on Mike Hosking’s and Seven sharp like what? I’m going to concede the argument and allow you to live out your dreams.

  8. *The year is 2050, all rivers in New Zealand are too toxic to even dip your toes into, the water running though people’s taps is mostly sludge, all toilets are clogged from the lack of water running through drains*
    NACT1ST Voters: AT LEAST WE STOPPED DO MMAAAAAUUURRRIIIIIIIIIIZZZ

  9. Here’s a fact: Even if you are lucky enough to be able to switch to tank rainwater, a method to screw you over with fees will be found.

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