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  1. There remain unanswered questions to this “deal”.

    1. Why is it not back-dated when MPs regularly have their pay-increases backdated?

    2. Which workers will qualify and will it be determined by the employer?

    3. Most important, the amount is $2 billion “spread over five years”. What does mean? Does that mean that any pay increase will be conducted annually? Which means any increase could be swallowed up and negated by inflation.

    I won’t be celebrating until I read the fine print.

    I sense fish-hooks in the detail.

    1. I totally agree Frank.

      I also have questions:

      Why was this settled in election year?( of which the answer is obvious)
      Why was the policy of increasing police numbers implemented in election year?( of which the answer is obvious).
      Why were any of the above not implemented , say, last year or two years ago?

      Only the gullible will be fooled. And yes Frank, there will be fish-hooks, just like the “if you give your vote back to us, we will build your bridges Northland”.

    2. Indeed, Frank. National is not known for it’s generosity and what it gives with one hand, it covertly takes away with the other. Let’s see what these fish hooks are, eh?

  2. totally agree Frank Macskasy, it aint over until the Fat lady sings, I’m not sure why Jonathon Coleman describes this land mark decision as a great reward to the workers in this industry when it really is paying people what they are worth, no more no less, and this phenomenal portrayal by media TVNZ, NZ Herald et al as being massive and the biggest win in living memory makes it appear that this industry Wins at the expense of others, never any genuine empathy for those that most deserve it

  3. This is great news for all women workers!….and in particular women working in the caring professions looking after the elderly!

  4. Watching English’s speech yesterday made me want to throw a rock through the television. “We’re giving a generous pay increase to some of New Zealand’s lowest paid workers… because it’s an election year and we have to make some embarrassingly transparent pretense of actually giving a shit, even though we don’t, and haven’t for years and years.”

    Well done, Bill. You’re a regular Mother Theresa, mate.

    1. i dont think anyone is fooled by Bill English…it was a court decision…not his decision

  5. I have learned this some time ago, to deal to the bastards in power, and the business and employer and other lobbies, the only really effective way is to take them to court.

    Forget even taking matters to watchdogs, that is when government is doing wrong, they have Crown Law to defend them and their actions, and force you to go through the stages up to the Supreme Court. Who has the resources, the patience, the determination, I ask? Very few do, but this battle for better wages for carers was one example, how you can beat the bastards by taking them to court and by threatening more court actions.

    Our useless top watchdog, the Ombudsman:

    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2016/07/24/the-new-zealand-ombudsman-fairness-for-all-an-empty-slogan-for-some/

    https://nzsocialjusticeblog2013.wordpress.com/2016/09/05/the-new-zealand-ombudsman-underfunded-and-compromised-the-auditor-general-sees-no-need-for-action/

    What to watch out for next, re this topic:

    Now we must look for all the back-doors the government will create for itself, to minimise the costs.

    They are good at it too, just look at how family carers fared years ago.

    http://www.carers.net.nz/blog/carers-angry-after-minimum-wage-decision

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