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  1. Wayne Mapp, who was in Kabul with Jerry Mateparae on the night of the first attacks, is quoted in “Hit&Run” describing it as a fiasco. As far as I know, Mr Mapp has neither denied saying this, nor been asked to explain it.

    If the NZDF wanted to ascertain some sort of truth about SAS activities in the Tirgiran Valley they could have read the well-documented fully referenced Hager/Stephenson report. And they probably did.

    “The SAS troopers conducted a search of Naimatullah’s house, breaking open locked boxes and taking papers. They set fire to the room containing his religious books and personal possessions and left with the house burning in the night. About 20 metres away, the house of N’s father, who disapproved of his son being part of the Taliban was also set alight,and was burned completely.”

    Or the NZDF could have read the NY Times report 24/8/10 of 8 civilians dead and 12 wounded. And they probably did.

    I think of this as being like some small South Island town, like Dipton perhaps, and the night’s peace shattered with monstrous Apache helicopters firing on poor humble dwellings, and terrified innocent children with torches running away to the hills in the dark, and men in uniforms thinking them bad guys.

    I look at wee kids in the park here, and the old people hobbling up a reasonably good sort of street, and I imagine the the absolute horror of what we did up in the Hindu Kush to poor subsistence peasants at peace in their sleep, and I ponder writing and apologising to the Afghani govt myself because it is as yet unclear whether our civil and military authorities can be relied upon to do the right thing. And I might.

  2. According to Voltaire, God (and presumably his son by magic to whom you frequently refer) is on the side of the Big Battalions so pleading for understanding from these deities my not be productive.

    Especially as you have taken up a pen as a weapon and that, also to revert to Voltaire, is to be at war.

    A commendable dissertation Bomber but no matter how right you are your might is minuscule and exposes you to retribution of the State which we all respect as I fallible.

    1. Kodel – You had better not read James Joyce – nor me – if punctuation idiosyncrasies puncture you.

      In your cosy little dell there, consider, if you can, the degree of differentiation between weapons fired at people asleep in their beds – from an Apache helicopter – and weapons fired at people asleep in their heads – from a keyboard.

    2. Oh Kodel. The irony here is a human being more concerned with counting up 66 (I got 65, 67, & 68) words not being punctuated to your liking than innocent people being shot to bits for no good reason more so since writing has moved on since the days of Enid Blyton and to quite a large extent writers can now construct their own rules which I do and the crux of all communications is to convey a message except when one is trying to be deliberately obscure as some politicians work hard at for reasons perhaps not evident even to themselves although they think and hope that they may impress their readers and indeed sometimes can in far fewer words than 66 knowing that so many people take a stubborn stance on everything and are unlikely to be moved by any number of words so that persons such as me who can write two or three hundred words with no punctuation can nevertheless still convey a succinct little message or even a heartfelt message about the savagery and barbarism of brutally sidelining the permanence of premature and painful deaths in a far off land merely to demonstrate what a shallow person one is and that compassion is an unknown quality among those to whom goodness is an anathema and evil has an allure.

  3. yes people need to look at who was in control when this happened oh! thats right it was war monger sir john key who said ‘get some guts’

  4. Afghanistan has been a long running war crime since 1979 when the start of a dirty war was to grow into 100,000 thousand extremists ‘ trained ‘ in Pakistanan and set loose on Afghanistan….. it fucked both countries and ended up with the first modern Islamic State … with the Taliban and their mujahedin / al quada guests … winning.

    What used to be friendly and on the hippy trail ………. is now destroyed and dangerous.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_greF3tTU

    Islamophobia and five eyes racisim is the other ingredients in our illegal wars .

    Jeremy Scahill revealed Thousands of night raids …. over a three month period in Afghanistan…. In his doco movie “dirty wars ” … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CEIzgV_85c

    I would be amazed if NZ forces were not involved in other botched killings ….
    I think Afghans are still being killed at the rate of 30 – 50 per day

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