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  1. “for most people, that’s a successful democracy”.

    No its not. Continually alienating almost half the electorate over the use of a plant is not what I’d envision to be the picture of success. Why do that to appease the other half who are mostly elder generations who have no real stake in our future?

    1. Agree with you Control denied and would like to add it wasn’t just many of our old people that selfishly voted against cannabis and managed to get their own way again on both euthanasia and the cannabis referendum but also our hypocritical Christians who vehemently hate cannabis but didn’t get their way on euthanasia.

    2. To put salt on our wounds, these oldies are probably the same ex Natzo voters that will be the next Jacinda handbrake excuse. They hold the young people in contempt, are greedy, insecure and ignorant. To my mind they had no right to vote on the cannabis law, it doesn’t effect them. Interfering handbrakes.

      1. I find your generalisations about ‘oldies’ offensive. i have never been a Nat voter. As a long time Labour voter, vegie gardener and arthritis sufferer i am saying you need to pull your head in.

        1. You need to stop the denial bullshit. If you can’t see the oldies as the handbrake on this issue and (many others), that’s not my problem. Your yes vote hasn’t got this over the line because the majority are nopers.

    3. The only reason younger generations exist at all to snivel & moan about how hard
      done by they are is because the older generations put a stake in their future.

      “Youth is wasted on the young”

      1. If I didn’t have youth at some point, and survived then I wouldn’t have grown old, voted “yes” for decriminalisation and warned others about where things are heading longer term.
        The young have a right to an opinion and to be listed to. They also have a right to learn and develop critical thinking.
        Their minds need to be in good shape.

      2. You mean Climate Change? Polluted lakes and rivers? Housing Crisis? Yeah, awesome RobbieWgtn.

  2. You should read “The Good Earth ” again Christine. The way to deal with a problematic underclass is to supply them with dope in unrestricted quantities.
    I just watched Jacinda announce that 40 something billion reserve bank created money is going to be used to build state infrastructure. That is transformative government in real fundamental terms. It is exactly where transformation has to start. It can do heaps to train and employ people. It is anything but neoliberal business as usual.
    D J S

    1. Agree David, a vocal number of the blog commentariat just want revolutionary political decisions made and implemented in similar speed to a McDonald’s burger. Sadly there is a fundamental lack of knowledge on how govt works and mistake transformation for revolution. The PM has stated on a number of occasions she wants change that sticks, hopefully that “40 something billion” involves a modern 21st century ministry of works.

  3. NZ still being run for capitalism and slave labour,

    The ‘slave’ fishers workers bought in from Russia have infected their first community case.

    “The new case is a staff member working in the Christchurch managed isolation facility, understood to be the Sudima Hotel, where a group of international mariners have been staying.

    The positive worker had developed symptoms for Covid-19 on Saturday and sought a further test on Sunday.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-new-community-case-in-christchurch-pm-jacinda-ardern-says-testing-system-is-catching-cases/VXYQA6QALLKW4QWSYLGTR5UV3M/

    There is no benefit to NZ, the community, the environment or a well run fishing industry industry, when NZ supports importing in workers because wages and conditions are so appalling in an industry they fail to be able to attract local workers or be bothered training anyone.

    NZ investigators expose slavery and human trafficking at sea
    https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1805/S00153/nz-investigators-expose-slavery-and-human-trafficking-at-sea.htm

    Slave fishing in NZ waters exposed
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/5431221/Slave-fishing-in-NZ-waters-exposed

    Link to the Talley’s shocking workplace accident.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/better-business/80905946/talleys-pays-reparations-to-decapitated-crewmans-family-after-safety-failure

    1. I’d be interested in knowing exactly where and how Sealord and Ngai Tahu fit into this scenario.

    2. I’d be interested in knowing exactly where and how Sealord and Ngai Tahu fit into this scenario.

      1. Apparently “Sealord, Independent Fisheries and Maruha Nichiro are covering the flights, managed isolation and other costs.”

        Betcha that Sealord, Independent Fisheries and Maruha Nichiro do not have to cover the hospital and medical care if things go wrong for the workers, or the lost wages, health care and business disruption of others who catch the virus such as the managed isolation worker…

        It is opening a can of worms…and we all know NZ is going to pay for Covid both with lives and economy, as it gets out into the community…

  4. Another three years of globalist neo liberalism from National 2.0. No real policy and lots prevarication with plenty of marketing fluff of the kind we have seen over the last three years, RIP NZ democracy.

  5. The ignorance of too many NZers who voted is abysmal! Writing as a very experienced/knowledgeable NZRN, the health-giving properties of cannabis are many (but unknown to the ignorant – who DON’T WANT TO KNOW!) It saddens me that the best research (IMO) has been done in Israel & Israelis benefit but many others do not.

  6. Make Tally’s pay for any extra quarantine caused by their ‘slave labor’ policies.
    WE NZ should NOT pay for them cutting corners !!!!

    1. I seem to remember 30 years ago (before Rogernomics) fishing was an incredibly well paid but horrible job that people did for the money! Fast forward, why would you work in that industry if wages are low, managers are terrible and negligent, you maybe decapitated on the job when your overseas manager does not want to repair the frayed ropes… that’s before the rapes, non payment etc…

      Same has happened in NZ (but hopefully not at the same level YET) with construction, aged care, transport, horticulture, farming, retail, hospitality …. )

      And yes rapes and non payment are a byproduct of our slave labour ideals in NZ… who cares about a few victims who may have nothing to do with the industry itself, when there is profits to be made…

      Vineyard worker charged with raping woman outside Blenheim bar
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/122052155/vineyard-worker-charged-with-raping-woman-outside-blenheim-bar

      Seasonal workers accused of rape
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/121976014/seasonal-workers-accused-of-rape

      Rape conviction upheld
      https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/southland/rape-conviction-upheld

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