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  1. As you say this is a tragic case however with an increasing number of voices insisting that there is no purpose for our existence & that people have to stand up for themself combined with the racism that exists among many people the end result can only get worse.

    1. As you say Bonnie. Look at the toxic masculinity that spewed forth yesterday about the woman who wanted g-strings gone from the local pool.
      No discussion of the rights and wrongs of g-strings in a confined public setting.

      It was all about having a go at the mother for daring to raise her head above the parapet.
      Looks like she had enormous ‘personal problems’ which she had never even known about before!!!
      What luck that all those men knew what they were and were quite happy to inform her.

      Too many people, often men, with too few facts and not much sense at their disposal.
      Too quick to make a point and take charge of the situation.

      1. Joy. Quite right. The male response to a g-string dialogue was pathological, and probably more so when it’s women, and mothers, who have always been the emotional and moral flag-holders in families. I think it was Prof Mary Daly – whose works I no longer have – who identified males as assuming control in just about every milieu, and too many women deferring to them when they shouldn’t. The personal vitriol poured on the New Plymouth mother was disgusting.

    2. Bonnie. There may be no purpose for our existence, but that’s not really relevant. The terribly obscene dimension here is that an innocent undeserving Indian gentleman from an ethnicity which like other Asians, and Maori and Pacifica, respects and traditionally cares for its elders, was killed by a middle-aged thug from a social community which puts its elderly into care, where they are mainly tended by low-paid staff from the aforementioned ethnicities.

      1. Bit too sentimental and applying kind, wishful generalisations for a thoughtful judgment I reckon. Feel free to sum up mine with reasons if wished.

  2. While there might seem to be no connection between the New Zealand’s socio-economic course as initiated by the fourth Labour government, everything is connected. Labour’s reforms caused gross inequity, poverty and family breakdowns. The new social attitudes, the social state of mind if you will, grew out of isolation and distrust engendered by the totalitarian expansion of atheistic capitalism which effectively destroyed the fraternal institutions (for example trade unions, churches and sports clubs) or professionalized them so that they became mere adjuncts of the capitalist system. In this context sociopaths become the norm. Innocent people die, lives are destroyed and there is a massive social cost. But none of this appears on the balance sheets of the global corporations who now control the New Zealand government. We are now engaged in a war in which only the innocent are being killed. It is time to change that.

    1. You sound as if you have thought hard about this type of thing; every sentence speaks fact, and observation, which is available to all who bother to query and ponder.

      Pondering should be as common as riding bicycles. (But not at the same time – bikes need full attention as becoming Weapons of Random Destruction.) Perhaps more pondering, better! Thanks for your thoughts and background GF.

  3. An angry man makes a mistake and lashes out like all bullies do . He caused a death but that was not the intention I am sure .Peter Ellis was a travesty of justice against the gay community by the establishment. I do not see how they are connected or make NZ any different to any other society. There are Male and female bullies everywhere ..

  4. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-man-killed-stranger-he-thought-was-abducting-his-son-from-skate-park/S2ECJLL6JVFBXEXDEWZ7EQEAYU/
    There is no excuse for this murderous 32 years man carrying out an undisciplined anger rampage. He got his 7 year old son back safely, and then decided to go back to the skate park and find this other man and deal to him. That is what is wrong with many men in NZ – they don’t monitor themselves, can’t reason, don’t understand empathy, but tend to react negatively or hysterically to anything they don’t like.

    It’s time that we did some pondering about the way that mothers and fathers are not given kind attention, and learning of parenting and personal skills (it is a difficult task to be a balanced, wise adult in this complex, mendacious society.) Once that was done, and people were able to apply themselves to living a good, productive life instead of being forced to grub around in what is allowed them at a low level, crime would be much less.

    And business fraud would become the main object of disgust and hopefully, disgrace. But those in top positions with organisational power are complicit in the continuance of this amoral society and the wilful ignorance that enables it to continue. It fits with their twisted view of society and pays off for them in ways we don’t understand. So we are puzzled and need to ponder!

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