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  1. Thanks Chris, there’s obviously some truth in what you say, the problem is the maths. There simple aren’t enough people sufficiently concerned about the issues that obsess the TMP and Greens. According to the September ISPOS survey the top five issues currently concerning New Zealanders are: inflation / cost of living, followed by housing / price of housing, healthcare, crime and the economy.

    TMP and Green, their delusional hard core supporters excepted, have serious credibility issues and most “disillusionment” with the status quo will be directed at the party that has held the reins of power for six years or so. Their incompetence will be their undoing. Debbie voting against her own bill in parliament says it all, the coalition of chaos pretty much sums it up.

    1. “ACT and National, their delusional hard core supporters excepted, have serious credibility issues”

      There, that’s better.

  2. To say TPM represents all Maori is like Shaneel Lal represents all Trans. Most people in both groups want to get on with their lives and don’t like the drama of the activists.
    The other side are looking at their kids and grandkids being legally second class citizens ( see Mcnulty). Most people will fight as hard as it takes to protect family .
    They see this election as their last chance to stop the revolution
    Going to get very nasty

  3. It’s pretty tired now Chris casting any criticism of proposals to disenfranchise a swathe of the NZ electorate as ‘thinly disguised racism’. Taking most of my vote away is racist in the extreme. In their revanchism and their ingratiation TPM and Labour have proven clearly who the real offenders are.

  4. So ‘coalition of chaos’ originated from Matthew Hooton?
    Didn’t think Luxon had the inventiveness of such a phrase when he uttered it.

  5. Yes – if the disenfranchised can be convinced not to vote then the right wing parties usually succeed at election time. Conversely, if they can be motivated to vote, then the centre-left coalition have a chance.

  6. Thank you Chris for another well presented analysis. Your reward seems scant judging by the comments but hopefully many people read and then think on the issues you raise.

  7. As the current Ford ad on TV says; If you do what you’ve always done, you’ll get what you’ve always got”, so it is with our so-called democracy. It’s a sham, a game of smoke and mirrors in which a choice of diverse political parties, touted as epitomizing democracy’s highest ideals, actually mitigates against them ever being realized. Polarizing people into vested interest groups, that’s not democracy – that’s anarchy. And that’s just how our system likes it – divide and rule. And as this and other worthy writers worry away at their word processors, the system laughs in their face. That this website needs to exist is itself an example of how the system controls and corrals the narrative. To paraphrase whoever said it; “It’s the system stupid!”

  8. To be fair the Labour party and connection with the greens is chaos. How will this improve with a third party if they cannot do it now as two parties?

    1. Compared to the two corrupt parties of ACT and National chaos will win everytime.

  9. Back up the bus. What has Labour achieved in the past 5 and a half years on the big items, housing, health, education, transport, inequity, homelessness, water quality, law and order? On these items it campaigned in 2017, broadly, we’ve gone backwards!

    In 2020, they didn’t really stand for much more than finishing the job free of the NZ First hand brake. Well they got an absolute majority and still what did they achieve? Not much of anything but eye watering government debt from spend ups that appear to have achieved little.

    I voted for them, both times and am truly disappointed and would say probably they are the most inept government in history. I have seen no indication under Hipkins that anything is different.

    As for the things not campaigned on, co-governance, meaning 3 Waters as some obscure extreme bureaucratic solution apparently to water quality, these have seen race relations plummet.

    So the petty identity politics male hating woke navel gazing Greens or the race party TPM aside, how is voting for the “left” going to benefit this country again?

  10. All National and ACT have to do is point out the bloody, multi-dimensional mess the country is now in, then compare it to the stability and national progress we had under Key.

    1. “the stability and national progress we had under Key.”

      We have a nice new white suit waiting for you Andrew, it buttons up at the back.

      I bet Key had a good stable grip of that waitress.
      I love how Key progressed home ownership to include living in cars and health infrastructure that included water running down Hospital walls,
      Geez Andrew, you are a very, very warped soul.

      https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1110/S00207/john-key-admits-to-lying.htm

      https://e2nz.org/2014/08/21/the-big-list-of-john-keys-lies/

  11. I’m not sure what you are up to Free Peach – seem too laid-back cynical and sardonic. We are talking about us peeps here, not an Oscar Wilde play. Some humour and irony yes.
    Not flitting around taking pot shots at silly old human systems that have obvious holes in them that peeps deliberately ignore; no way to run an election discussion.

    You are too much like a butterfly, not even a monarch good to look at, but more like a large cabbage white one that I yearn to take a tennis racket to but it’s too quickly past. I think your approach is unhelpful free peach and I want weightier thoughts that don’t float off in the air like bad smells.

  12. This morning at 7:26 am Stuff Author Steve Kilallon lists Te Pāti Maori coalition demands

    “No GST on food, no monarchy, tax the rich: Te Pāti Māori’s demands for coalition” Steve Kilgallon 07:26, May 12 2023

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132012971/no-gst-on-food-no-monarchy-tax-the-rich-te-pti-moris-demands-for-coalition

    Just over an hour later, at 8:05 am, instead of evaluating Te Pāti Māori substantive position on GST and taxing the rich, leading Labour Party activist Greg Presland, (AKA MICKYSAVAGE) gives his automatic Labour Party kneejerk response.

    Greg Presland deliberately leaves out Te Pāti Māori flagship policies above, instead listing 12 Te Pāti Māori policies not mentioned anywhere in the Stuff report by Steve Kilgallon.

    Lying by omission.

    Deliberately not addressing the main social justice demands of Te Pāti Māori, The Standard author Mickysavage is taking a page straight out of the National Party racist scare playbook.

    “What Do The Maori Party Want Anyway?” By: MICKYSAVAGE – Date published: 8:05 am, May 12th, 2023

    https://thestandard.org.nz/what-do-the-maori-party-want-anyway/#comment-1949509

    The options for Left leaning and Centre voters is clear, vote Labour or National for Business as Usual.
    Vote Te Pati Maori for social justice.

    1. Yesterday Greg Presland didn’t want to talk about the Te Pāti Māori social justice reforms, today Cristopher Luxon doesn’t want to talk about Te Pāti Māori social justice reforms.

      Neither National or Labour want to form a coalition government with Te Pāti Māori if it means having to address social injustice and inequality.
      Evidentially both Labour and National don’t even want to talk about the social justice reforms raised by Te Pāti Māori.

      At a media conference called by Christopher Luxon, at which the National Party leader accused Te Pāti Māori of grandstanding and ruled them out as coalition partners, Luxon, too, wanted the focus shifted.
      Anna Whyte, Stuff.co.nz 05:00, May 13 2023

      So Greg Presland and Labour are not the only one that want to shift the focus away from Te Pāti Māori social justice reforms for forming a coalition government.
      Greg Presland’s attempt to shift the focus away from Te Pāti Māori social justice demands for forming a government, have been joined by National’s Christopher Luxon.
      Luxon angrily demanded the media shift their focus away from the possibility of him being forced into the uncomfortable position (for National), of having to negotiate with Te Pāti Māori over social justice reforms if they want to form a government.

      “What New Zealanders need right now is none of this stuff, none of this stuff that’s been happening over the last week.’’
      When a reporter later asked if it would make his job harder to pull the numbers to form a government, Luxon bafflingly replied, “I know you guys want to talk about that stuff.
      Anna Whyte, Stuff.co.nz 05:00, May 13 2023

      Labour and National don’t want to talk about “that stuff”. But we do.

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/132023807/parliament-full-of-fingerpointing-grandstanding-as-the-reality-of-climate-change-bites

  13. “There has been a disturbance in the force.”

    Both Labour and National’s neoliberal certainty has been challenged.

  14. Labour Party Leader Chris Hipkins tries to scare the electorate away from voting Te Pati Moari by saying he will not agree with Te Pati Maori coalition terms, to remove GST from food, or tax the rich or form a truely independent foreign policy free from the British Crown and US military nuclear and spying pacts like AUKUS and 5 Eyes.

    “Smaller parties, I think, need to be careful with whatever they issue in terms of ‘bottom lines’ or they could find themselves simply not able to be part of any governing arrangement at all,” Chris Hipkins

    With this above statement Chris Hipkins is threatening the electorate that he will let National and Act form a coalition government before he would form a coalition government that had to agree to help New Zealanders with the cost of living by removing GST off food.

    With this above statement Chris Hipkins is threatening the electorate that he will let National and Act form a coalition government before he would form a coalition government that had to agree to increase taxes on the rich to pay their fair share.

    With this above statement Chris Hipkins is threatening the electorate that he will let National and Act form a coalition government before he would form a coalition government that had to agree to New Zealand having a truly independent foreign policy, free of nuclear and spying pacts.

    Chris Hipkins tells Māori Party to be ‘careful’ with policy demands Glenn McConnell, Stuff.co.nz 16:01, May 12 2023

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/132027968/chris-hipkins-tells-mori-party-to-be-careful-with-policy-demands

    Te Pāti Māori has issued its list of coalition demands, but Prime Minister Chris Hipkins looks to be calling their bluff…..

    Calling their bluff can only be by threatening to let National ACT govern. Pretty disgusting stuff from the Labour Party Leader.

    If we want Hipkins and the Labour Party to take seriously the Left wing demands raised by Te Pati Maori, contrary to what Hipkins wants, the biggest left vote possible that can’t ignore must be delivered to Te Pati Maori.

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